What exactly is medical physics?

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The discussion centers around the field of medical physics, exploring its definition, applications, and potential career paths. Participants share insights on the role of physics in medicine, including clinical service, research, and education.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants describe medical physics as the application of physics models to medicine, emphasizing its relevance alongside biology and chemistry.
  • One participant cites the American Association of Physicists in Medicine (AAPM) to outline that medical physicists engage in clinical service, research and development, and teaching.
  • Clinical responsibilities include planning radiation treatments for cancer patients and collaborating with physicians in nuclear medicine.
  • Research areas mentioned include radiation effects, instrumentation development, and applications of digital technology in medicine.
  • Teaching roles for medical physicists involve training future professionals and conducting courses related to medical physics and biophysics.
  • Another participant suggests subscribing to the journal Medical Physics for current research insights, noting its value for students in the field.
  • Concerns are raised about the adequacy of undergraduate programs in providing a solid physics foundation for graduate studies, with a caution about potential curriculum limitations.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding and perspectives on the field of medical physics, with no clear consensus on the specifics of educational pathways or the adequacy of certain programs.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the importance of reviewing curriculum details and graduate outcomes for specialized programs, indicating potential limitations in foundational physics education.

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Individuals interested in pursuing a career in medical physics, students considering related educational programs, and those seeking to understand the intersection of physics and medicine may find this discussion beneficial.

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I got accepted to Medical Physics at Ryerson but don't understand what exactly it is. Can you guys please explain what it is, and what possible careers are associated with it?
 
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p.ella said:
I got accepted to Medical Physics at Ryerson but don't understand what exactly it is. Can you guys please explain what it is, and what possible careers are associated with it?
It's what it says - it's the application of physics models to medicine.
Normally you'd think of medicine as being mostly biology with some chemistry thrown in right?
Turns out that physics has a lot to say as well. Enjoy.

Careers - medical research.
 
From the American Association of Physicists in Medicine (AAPM) website:

What do Medical Physicists Do?

Medical physicists are concerned with three areas of activity: clinical service and consultation, research and development, and teaching. On the average their time is distributed equally among these three areas.

Clinical Service and Consultation
Many medical physicists are heavily involved with responsibilities in areas of diagnosis and treatment, often with specific patients. These activities take the form of consultations with physician colleagues. In radiation oncology departments, one important example is the planning of radiation treatments for cancer patients, using either external radiation beams or internal radioactive sources. An indispensable service is the accurate measurement of the radiation output from radiation sources employed in cancer therapy. In the specialty of nuclear medicine, physicists collaborate with physicians in procedures utilizing radionuclides for delineating internal organs and determining important physiological variables, such as metabolic rates and blood flow. Other important services are rendered through investigation of equipment perfor*mance, organization of quality control in imaging systems, design of radiation installations, and control of radiation hazards. The medical physicist is called upon to contribute clinical and scientific advice and resources to solve the numerous and diverse physical problems that arise continually in many specialized medical areas.

Research and Development
Medical physicists play a vital and often leading role on the medical research team. Their activities cover wide frontiers, including such key areas as cancer, heart disease, and mental illness. In cancer, they work primarily on issues involving radiation, such as the basic mechanisms of biological change after irradiation, the application of new high-energy machines to patient treatment, and the development of new techniques for precise measurement of radiation. Significant computer developments continue in the area of dose calculation for patient treatment and video display of this treatment information. Particle irradiation is an area of active research with promising biological advantages over traditional photon treatment. In heart disease, physicists work on the measurement of blood flow and oxygenation. In mental illness, they work on the recording, correlation, and interpretation of bioelectric potentials.

Medical physicists are also concerned with research of general medical significance, including the applications of digital computers in medicine and applications of information theory to diagnostic problems; processing, storing, and retrieving medical images; measuring the amount of radioactivity in the human body and foodstuffs; and studying the anatomical and temporal distribution of radioactive substances in the body.

Medical physicists are also involved in the development of new instrumentation and technology for use in diagnostic radiology. These include the use of magnetic and electro-optical storage devices for the manipulation of x-ray images, quantitative analysis of both static and dynamic images using digital computer techniques, radiation methods for the analysis of tissue characteristics and composition, and the exciting new areas of computerized tomography and magnetic resonance imaging for displaying detailed cross-sectional images of the anatomy. Medical physicists are also engaged in research and development on imaging procedures utilizing infrared and ultrasound sources.

Typical examples of the various research areas presently under active investigation may be found in scientific journals dedicated to this field. The journal, Medical Physics, is published by the AAPM. In addition, the AAPM holds two national scientific meetings a year, one in the summer and one in the winter. During the winter meeting, the AAPM conducts scientific sessions in joint sponsorship with the Radiological Society of North America. Special summer courses, workshops, and frequent regional meetings are also held by the AAPM.

Teaching
Often medical physicists have faculty appointments at universities and colleges, where they help train future medical physicists, resident physicians, medical students, and technologists who operate the various types of equipment used to perform diagnosis and treatment. They also conduct courses in medical physics and aspects of biophysics and radiobiology for a variety of gradu*ate and undergraduate students. The Commission on Accreditation of Medical Physics Education Programs, Inc. (CAMPEP), jointly sponsored by the American College of Radiology (ACR), American Association of Physicists in Medicine (AAPM) and the American College of Medical Physics (ACMP), assures high educational standards in the field. A list of accredited programs is available here.
 
Subscribe to the journal MEDICAL PHYSICS immediately...or spend at least a half day reading issues in any available library...

I know nothing about the journal itself, but I do know it is invaluable to have current explanations of activity in whatever field you choose.
 
Naty1 said:
Subscribe to the journal MEDICAL PHYSICS immediately...or spend at least a half day reading issues in any available library...

I know nothing about the journal itself, but I do know it is invaluable to have current explanations of activity in whatever field you choose.

I would note that this advice is more appropriate for a senior undergraduate student or a graduate student rather than a kid coming out of high school. What you might want to do at that point is get a student membership with AAPM (which comes with a subscription to medical physics), and then start reading about the research in the field.

As for the original poster I'm not personally familiar with Ryerson's program, but would offer the following advice. Make sure you look at the curriculum carefully and look at where graduates of the program are ending up. One of the issues with a specialized undergraduate program is that while it looks nice on paper, you may not actually get enough physics to go to graduate school in physics. What sometimes happens is that in order to add some of the more "medical physics-y" courses, they cut out some core physics courses. I'm not saying this is the case with Ryerson... just pointing it out.
 
Thank you so much for the wonderful advice everyone, I truly do appreciate it! & to the person above, I shall definitely go for a subscription!
 

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