What factors determine the focal length of a lens?

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The discussion revolves around understanding the factors that determine the focal length of lenses, specifically focusing on the shape and curvature of D-shaped lenses. Participants explore how these characteristics influence the focal length and the relationship between lens dimensions and focal properties.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between lens curvature and focal length, questioning whether longer lenses necessarily have longer focal lengths. There is also inquiry into how the size of the lens affects its focal length, particularly in relation to curvature.

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Some participants have provided insights regarding the influence of curvature on focal length, while others have raised questions about the role of lens size. The conversation reflects a mix of established concepts and ongoing inquiries, with no explicit consensus reached on all points.

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Participants note that the thickness of the lens does not affect the focal length, but the diameter may influence light reception and angle range. There is also clarification regarding terminology, distinguishing between individual lens elements and systems of lenses.

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Let's say that there are three lenses A (all of which are semicircles: flat on one side, curved on the other). One lense is a short and curved D, another lense is a very elongated and narrow D (longer than the first lense), and the third lense is as long as the second lense but has a sharper curvature. How would you rank the focal lengths of these lenses? In other words, how is focal length of a lense related to its shape? More curved = shorter focal length? Longer lens = longer focal length?
 
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The more steeply curved the shorter the focal length = the greater the bending effect on the light. A completely flat piece of glass has an infinite focal length and no bending effect
 
I have a similar question, i knew about the curvature, but how does the SIZE of the lens affect the focal length? do smaller (shorter) lenses have shorter focal points than longer lenses?
 
No - only the curvature affects the focal length
 
Thanks! So, let's continue with the D-shaped lenses, if you have a short lense and a tall lense, and the width of the lenses (from the center of flat edge to the center of the curved edge) are equal, the short lens would have a smaller focal length since its relative curvature is higher than the longer lense, which doesn't have as steep of a curve (despite having equal width)?
 
The focal length of a lens is set by the 'lens maker equation'
1/f = n(1/r1 - 1/r2)

D shaped (we call them plano-convex) only depend on the curvature of of one side since the other side is flat (ie r=infinite and 1/r=0)

The thickness of the lens doesn't matter (as far as focal length is concerned)

The diameter of the lens does matter for the amount of light the lens can receive (important in the first element of binoculars or a telescope) or for the range of angles it can receive light from (important in the elements at the back of a camera lens)

ps. Technically we call an individual 'lens' (ie one bit of glass) an element. A system of several elements working together - like in your camera is called a 'lens'.But when you only have a single element - like in a magnifying glass - this is also called a lens.
There is no such word 'lense' people think this because in english the plural is lenses
 

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