What Function Minimizes Arc Length While Meeting Specific Conditions?

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The discussion revolves around finding a function that minimizes arc length while satisfying specific conditions related to continuity, boundary values, and area under the curve. The subject area includes calculus, particularly focusing on arc length and optimization of functions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore various functions, including polynomial and potential circular arcs, to meet the problem's conditions. There are discussions about the validity of certain functions and their properties, such as area and continuity. Questions arise regarding the methods to minimize arc length and the implications of using different types of functions.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and suggestions for different approaches to the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the exploration of specific function types, such as piecewise-linear functions and catenaries. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity of the problem, and participants are considering various interpretations and methods.

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Participants note that the problem is posed in a Calculus II context, and some express uncertainty about the level of mathematical tools expected, such as the Euler-Lagrange equations, which have not yet been covered in their coursework.

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Homework Statement



Find a formula for one function that satisfies these given conditions:

1.) f is continuous on [0,1].
2.) f(0) = f(1) = 0 (exactly).
3.) f(x) is greater than or equal to 0 for [0,1]
4.) The area under the graph of f from 0 to 1 is equal to 1 (exactly).

Calculate the arc length.
Try to find the smallest possible arc length.

Homework Equations


Arc Length formula

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I don't know! I'm completely lost. So far I found the function f(x) = -6x^2+6x gives me an arc length of ~3.249 and satisfies all four conditions. But I'm pretty sure there must be a smaller arc length. Please help me find the smallest possible arc length. Thank you!
 
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All I can do is point out that f(x)= 6x2+ 6x certainly does not satisfy all the conditions. The "area under the graph of f from 0 to 1" is 5, not 1!
 
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All I can do is point out that f(x)= 6x2+ 6x certainly does not satisfy all the conditions. The "area under the graph of f from 0 to 1" is 5, not 1!

The coefficient of the x^2 term is -6. Not 6. So his curve does work. As to the larger problem, it sounds pretty hard. Where did you find it? Are you doing calculus of variations, or might there be some simple trick?
 
You might try fitting a circular arc to your conditions. Does it give smaller arc length?
 
Of course, if you do that, it won't be a function. But still. This is like a minimal surface problem (soap films). I used to study that! Long ago. Must. Remember.
 
You also might want to try fitting a cosh(x) type curve. It's a catenary. Minimizes some other things. It does have the virtue that it MAY BE easy to compute the arc length exactly.
 
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I don't know at what level you are expected to prove this, but you can pick very simple functions since you are only expected to use continuous functions. Try piecewise-linear functions.

(Euler - Lagrange equations show that dy/dx = const minimizes arc length, but you have an additional constraint that makes this result unsatisfactory.)
 
This question is for Calculus II, we haven't done anything with Euler - Lagrange equations...yet. This question was given to us as class contest (with no prize!).
 
If you haven't done Euler-Lagrange yet, then you probably don't want to plunge into the formulism. But your geometric intuition along might tell you what kind of curve to try.
 

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