What Happened to Ted Kennedy at Senate Luncheon?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the medical emergency involving Senator Ted Kennedy during a Senate luncheon, including reports of his collapse and convulsions, as well as the involvement of Senator Robert Byrd. The scope includes news reporting, eyewitness accounts, and the sequence of events as they unfolded during the incident.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Debate/contested, Meta-discussion

Main Points Raised

  • Initial reports indicated that Ted Kennedy was removed from the luncheon on a stretcher due to severe convulsions.
  • Some participants noted that Senator Robert Byrd required medical assistance after witnessing Kennedy's condition.
  • There are conflicting accounts regarding the sequence of events, with some suggesting that Byrd's distress was a reaction to Kennedy's collapse.
  • One participant observed that Kennedy appeared conscious when being loaded into the ambulance, raising questions about the severity of his condition.
  • Reports from CNN about Byrd's condition were retracted, indicating confusion about who required medical attention.
  • Further clarification suggested that Byrd was not suffering from a medical condition and left the room after seeing Kennedy's situation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the sequence of events and the conditions of both Kennedy and Byrd, with multiple competing views on the accuracy of initial reports and eyewitness accounts.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects limitations in the clarity of initial news reports and the potential for miscommunication regarding the medical emergencies of both senators.

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MSNBC is reporting Ted Kennedy has been removed from the Senate Luncheon with Obama on a stretcher.
 
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Now it is reported that Sen Robert Byrd needed medical assistance. After medics entered the room for Byrd, Kennedy went into severe convulsions.
 
Kennedy Collapsed

January 20, 2009 2:46 PM

Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., who is battling a brain tumor, was taken away from the congressional luncheon in convulsions.

Kennedy was at a table with Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., Vice President Mondale and Mrs. Mondale, and others. While at the table, Kennedy began having seizures that lasted for several minutes. As they were carrying Kennedy out of the room, he was still seizing. President Barack Obama went out of the room with him, but he is back in the luncheon room now.

We are also told that Sen. Robert Byrd, D-W.Va., the oldest member of the Senate, was so upset and distraught from what he had witnessed, that he needed to be taken out. Byrd was conscious when he was taken from the room. The two have been friends for a very, very long time.

Obama just spoke to the luncheon about Kennedy, appearing extremely sober:

"First of all, I know that while I was out of the room, concern was expressed about Teddy," Obama said. "He was there when the Voting Rights Act passed. And, along with John Lewis, was a warrior for justice. And so I would be lying to you if I did not say that right now a part of me is with him. And I think that is true for all of us. This is a joyous time, but it's also a sobering time. And my prayers are with him and his family and Vicki."

An ambulance could be seen driving from the U.S. Capitol.

--George Stephanopoulos
http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2009/01/kennedy-collaps.html
 
Ivan Seeking said:
Now it is reported that Sen Robert Byrd needed medical assistance. After medics entered the room for Byrd, Kennedy went into severe convulsions.

I think Stephanopoulis got the sequence wrong.
 
I see the news footage and Kennedy appears conscious as he was loaded in the ambulance to a hospital.
 
CNN is retracting the report about Byrd. There may have been some initial confusion about who was down.
 
Ivan Seeking said:
CNN is retracting the report about Byrd. There may have been some initial confusion about who was down.

It seems now that Stephanopoulis was correct. That Byrd left after seeing Kennedy stricken. Byrd is apparently not suffering from a medical condition.
 

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