What happens if the nuclear bomb is placed and exploded on the Jupiter

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the hypothetical scenario of detonating a nuclear bomb on Jupiter, exploring the implications of such an explosion in the context of Jupiter's atmospheric composition and the nature of combustion. Participants consider both chemical and nuclear reactions, as well as historical precedents related to large impacts on the planet.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the high hydrogen content of Jupiter's atmosphere could lead to significant combustion if a nuclear bomb were detonated.
  • Others clarify that burning, in the traditional sense, requires oxygen, which is scarce on Jupiter, thus questioning the feasibility of combustion.
  • A participant references historical speculation regarding the potential for nuclear reactions during the Manhattan Project, noting that experts concluded such reactions would not occur on Jupiter.
  • There is a discussion about whether chemical reactions could occur, with some participants suggesting that if ignition were possible, it would have happened due to natural events like meteors or lightning.
  • One participant mentions the impact of Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 as an example of a significant energy release on Jupiter, arguing that its energy far exceeds that of a nuclear explosion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that combustion as typically understood is unlikely on Jupiter due to the lack of oxygen. However, there is no consensus on the implications of a nuclear explosion or the nature of potential reactions that could occur.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference historical speculation about nuclear reactions and the energy comparison between nuclear explosions and celestial impacts, but these points remain speculative and are not resolved within the discussion.

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Hello. I know that more than 80 percent of the atmosphere of the Jupiter is the hydrogen. Does this fact mean that intense explosion possibly with the nuclear bomb burn all the gas of the Jupiter? There must be huge difference to the explosion on Earth.
 
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There was a similar speculation before the first nuke test on Earth:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan_Project

Teller also raised the speculative possibility that an atomic bomb might "ignite" the atmosphere because of a hypothetical fusion reaction of nitrogen nuclei.[note 1] Bethe calculated that it could not happen,[27] and a report co-authored by Teller showed that "no self-propagating chain of nuclear reactions is likely to be started."[28] In Serber's account, Oppenheimer mentioned it to Arthur Compton, who "didn't have enough sense to shut up about it. It somehow got into a document that went to Washington" and was "never laid to rest".[note 2]
 
I think goodphy is talking about hydrogen gas burning up, not a continued nuclear chain reaction.
 
Yes I am. I was not going to the nuclear fusion and I had imagined the some sort of chain reaction as we can see the explosion of the gas pipe started with the such a small ignition like using lighter. What about chemical reaction like this instead of the fusion?
 
...in which case, the answer is still no, since there is almost no oxygen on Jupiter, so it can't burn.

Note, we got to watch what happens if there are nuke sized explosions on Jupiter when comet S-L 9 broke apart and impacted 10 years or so ago.
 
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Oh..yes chemically oxygen is required to get what people normally call `burn`. Thanks!
 
The process of burning is the oxidization of a material. This means it combines with oxygen to burn. Since there's very little oxygen on Jupiter, nothing would burn.
 
goodphy said:
What about chemical reaction like this instead of the fusion?
Don't you think something would have ignited it long ago, if it was ignitable? Meteors, lightning etc.
 
russ_watters said:
...in which case, the answer is still no, since there is almost no oxygen on Jupiter, so it can't burn.

Note, we got to watch what happens if there are nuke sized explosions on Jupiter when comet S-L 9 broke apart and impacted 10 years or so ago.

Comet Shoemaker-Levy struck Jupiter in July 1994, almost twenty years ago.
 
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SteamKing said:
Comet Shoemaker-Levy struck Jupiter in July 1994, almost twenty years ago.
I'm old.
 
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russ_watters said:
I'm old.

I have to agree. Felt like it was in the last decade.
 
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russ_watters said:
I'm old.

me to hahaha

But I still vividly recall looking at the big black blotches in the Jovian atmosphere
through my own telescope.

Best birthday present ever!

Dave
 
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The Shoemaker-Levy impact was much, much larger in terms of energy release than any nuke: 6x1012 tons of TNT or, per wiki, 600 times the combined global arsenal of nuclear weapons. The nuclear fission or fusion of even a few tons of suitable matter doesn't really compare with high speed collisions of large celestial bodies.
 

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