What Happens to a Charge in a Uniform Electric Field?

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The discussion revolves around a uniform electric field between two parallel plates, with a specified magnitude and direction. Participants explore the implications of a charge placed in this field, particularly focusing on the nature of the charge and the behavior of potential energy as the charge moves within the field.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Exploratory

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the direction of the electric field and the force experienced by a charge. There are attempts to determine the sign of the charge based on the direction of the force and the field. Questions arise about how to visualize the electric field and the forces acting on charges of different signs.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with various interpretations being explored regarding the nature of the charge in relation to the electric field. Some participants provide equations and reasoning, while others express confusion about the implications of the field direction and the charge's behavior. There is no explicit consensus on the charge's sign, and multiple viewpoints are being considered.

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Participants are navigating assumptions about the electric field's direction and the characteristics of the charges involved. There is mention of potential confusion due to the relationship between the field and the forces acting on charges, as well as the need to visualize these concepts accurately.

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Homework Statement



A uniform electric field between two parallel plates has magnitude of 20N/C and is directed downward.

1) A charge brought into this field experiences a force of 10.0 N downward. The charge must be...?
2) The potential energy of this charge when moving downward is...?


Homework Equations



e = f/q

The Attempt at a Solution



By using the equation, I found 0.5C. However, I am trying to get a picture of it. If the plate above is positive and the one below is negative...and the force is downward, would that mean the charge is positive?
Then the answer for the second question means the charge is increasing.

Would that be correct?
 
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hi domyy! :smile:

forget the picture :redface: … it'll only confuse you :confused:

use the equations

force = charge x electric field

potential energy = minus work done (= minus force "dot" distance) :wink:
 
Electric field direction is defined as the direction of the force that a positive charge would experience.
 
The potential energy is decreasing because at the top it has maximum eletric potential energy but as it goes downward toward the negative plate it decreases!

In this case, my answer for q = negative 0.5 ?
 
domyy said:
In this case, my answer for q = negative 0.5 ?

the force is downward, and the field is downward, so the charge must be … ?
 
I am afraid this is a trick question =/ The way you asked I was very tempted to think: if it´s all downward, then it must be negative. But this is what I have on my book:

I have a drawing with nothing written on it but some arrows. It seems that if the charge is positive, the force will go toward the negative plate and if the charge is negative, the force will go toward the positive plate.

So, If the force is downward, toward the negative plate, that means the charge must be positive.
 
forget about plates! :rolleyes:

physics is euqations !

in this case, the lorentz force equation

F = qE

so if F and E are in the same direction, q must be … ? :smile:
 
negative.
 
how do you get that? :confused:

this is primary school arithmetic …

if F = qE, and if F and E are in the same direction,

then q must be positive, mustn't it?​
 
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I have a question concerning this problem. Here we are talking about a downward force. And if I am supposed to portray this, then I would draw a positive plate and a negative plate with arrows coming down toward the negative plate. Now, how to portray a force that is upward?
Should it start from the negative plate going toward the positive?
With an upward force, would the charge be negative and the potential energy increase?
 
  • #11
domyy said:
… I would draw a positive plate and a negative plate with arrows coming down toward the negative plate.

do the arrows represent the field?

if so, yes :smile:
Now, how to portray a force that is upward?
Should it start from the negative plate going toward the positive?
With an upward force, would the charge be negative and the potential energy increase?

i don't understand the question

an upward force is represented by an upward arrow

but that has nothing to do with the direction of the arrow representing the field
 
  • #12
Well, when I was asked the question about the downward force, I was supposed to draw the E-field indicating +/- signs. Now, I am just curious how that would look like if the force were upward.
 
  • #13
The question was:

A uniform electric field between two parallel plates has magnitude of 20N/C and is directed downward. Draw the E-field indicating +/- signs, which plate is positive and which is negative?

I am just trying to understand if the force were upward, my drawing would have been anyhow different.

This is what I drew for the downward force: http://www.regentsprep.org/Regents/physics/phys03/aparplate/plate3.gif

I am just curious to know if the force were upward, the arrows would be coming from the negative plate toward the positive and ,therefore, upward.
 
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domyy said:
A uniform electric field between two parallel plates has magnitude of 20N/C and is directed downward. Draw the E-field indicating +/- signs, which plate is positive and which is negative?

I am just trying to understand if the force were upward, my drawing would have been anyhow different.

the direction (and strength) of the force depends on the charge it's acting on

the direction (and strength) of the field is the same whatever charge it's acting on
 

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