What happens to a person's body in space without a spacesuit?

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If pressure in a vacuum is very low, water can evaporate even at low temperatures, since the lower the pressure, the lower the boiling point.
So, if I were suddenly exposed to the vacuum of space, would my body freeze, or would it expand as the water in my body turned into gas?
 
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Pelf41 said:
So, if I were suddenly exposed to the vacuum of space, would my body freeze, or would it expand as the water in my body turned into gas?
Uncontrollable burps and farts: Embarrassing.
Internal gas embolism and colic: Painful.
Accelerated desiccation and freeze drying: Preserving.
 
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Something to consider is that your skin is not merely a bowl of water. It acts as a partial barrier to vapourization of water (mucosal membranes notwithstanding). Not a complete barrier, but sufficiently so that a number of other things - relating both to low pressure and extreme cold - will harm you in the meantime.
 
DaveC426913 said:
Something to consider is that your skin is not merely a bowl of water.
With age, the skin becomes wrinkled. Space works faster than Botox.
May I introduce you to Monsieur Bibendum, the Michelin man.
 
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Clearly not a scuba diver asking.

Even though space is cold, it's also a pretty good insulator. Heat transfer is from radiation and happens more slowly than anything related to pressure changes.
 
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DaveE said:
Clearly not a scuba diver asking.

Even though space is cold, it's also a pretty good insulator. Heat transfer is from radiation and happens more slowly than anything related to pressure changes.
Interesting thought. If someone were to exit the ISS with only a scuba tank for air, and maybe a mask to keep their eyes from drying out, how long would they then survive?

General googling says the irradiance at the ISS is ≈1360 watts/m² and this site says a 1m² black body @ 90°F emmits ≈500 watts. This mean the person would actually warm up!

We should probably give them a water bottle as it seems to me their body might try and sweat all that extra energy away.
 
DaveE said:
Heat transfer is from radiation and happens more slowly than anything related to pressure changes.
What about sweat evaporation?

OmCheeto said:
We should probably give them a water bottle as it seems to me their body might try and sweat all that extra energy away.
Here some information on this:
https://www.vooner.com/a-beginning-to-thermodynamics-and-enthalpy-when-applied-to-vacuum/
https://www.vooner.com/a-beginning-to-thermodynamics-and-enthalpy-when-applied-to-vacuum/ said:
At atmospheric pressure (14.7 psia), the latent heat of vaporization is about 970 BTU/lb. In a rough vacuum (for example, at 1 psia), that value jumps to about 1,036 BTU/lb. Why? In a liquid, molecules are held together by internal bonds. At lower pressures and temperatures, the molecules have less “natural” kinetic energy, so you must add more external energy to break them apart and turn them into a gas.
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Evaporation (The Cooling Effect)
In a vacuum system, evaporation is often used for cooling. Since the water “wants” to evaporate at a lower temperature, it will pull the necessary latent heat (~1,040 BTU/lb) from its own liquid mass or the surrounding equipment. This causes the remaining liquid to drop in temperature rapidly, a process known as Auto-refrigeration.
The question is whether the body would sweat sufficiently under these conditions.
 
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I understand from the Wikipedia page about effects of spaceflight on the human body that there are several effects that in short time will be fatal, the precise set of effects depending on whether the decompression is explosive or slow. Like in diving and aviation, the "main killer" effect seems to be loss of consciousness in the sense that if you pass out due to low oxygen pressure inside of 10-15 sec then you only have that much time to become aware and take own actions to survive, and perhaps 1-2 minute for someone else to come rescue and re-pressurize your body.

For diving I belive the lower limit for oxygen partial pressure pO2 in the air supply is around 16 kPa in order to maintain around a pO2 above 10 kPa in the arterial blood stream. Below that you will almost surely start to loose cognitive functions and eventually pass out. For comparison, the pO2 in normal air at 1 atm is around 21 kPa. In diving, shallow-water blackout can occur very fast (i.e. you go from conscious to unconscious within 1-2 sec) because the blood stream pO2 drops below the limit even though you body is still in around one atmpheric pressure. I therefore assume that a significant body pressure drop most likely also will give rise to a significant blood stream pO2 drop. E.g. if you had been breathing normal air at 101 kPa, then you may start to pass out when the (air) body pressure drops below 70-80 kPa whereas if you had been breathing pure oxygen at 21 kPa the body then the same should happen around 16 kP. Thus, I would guess that the small pressure difference a normal body would be able to retain for a short while between external pressure (near vacuum) and internal arterial pressure is going to be much more "helpful" in retaining arterial pO2 in case you have been breathing pure oxygen in low pressure. I still think you will pass out inside 10-15 sec even with pure oxygen, but that is better than the 1-2 sec I venture you would stay conscious in vacuum after breathing 1 atm air.
 
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I expect the first effect of the vacuum would be to collapse the lungs, which you could not fight. That would immediately end gas exchange, but there would be sufficient oxygen in the blood for continued consciousness. I would expect the irreversible killer to be the rise in CO2, with acidification of the blood.
Would the vacuum pull dissolved CO2 from the blood, even with the lungs collapsed?
Would O2 also be removed from the hemoglobin in the blood, through collapsed lungs?
 
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Baluncore said:
I expect the first effect of the vacuum would be to collapse the lungs, which you could not fight.
This is what I was thinking too. I don't think scuba gear would help.
 
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Baluncore said:
I expect the first effect of the vacuum would be to collapse the lungs
Assuming the person is quick enough to realize what happens and is able to retain a slight (over-) pressure of air in his or hers lungs then I don't see why lungs should (structurally) collapse. In diving lung collapse is associated with free diving too deep, where (in effect) the lung has significant under-pressure relative to the external pressure.

Baluncore said:
I would expect the irreversible killer to be the rise in CO2
Why would CO2 transfer slower from the blood to the (near vacuum) lungs? In "normal" situations, CO2 transfer to the lung as long as its partial pressure in the blood relative to that in the lungs are above some limit.
 
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OmCheeto said:
Interesting thought. If someone were to exit the ISS with only a scuba tank for air, and maybe a mask to keep their eyes from drying out, how long would they then survive?

General googling says the irradiance at the ISS is ≈1360 watts/m² and this site says a 1m² black body @ 90°F emmits ≈500 watts. This mean the person would actually warm up!

We should probably give them a water bottle as it seems to me their body might try and sweat all that extra energy away.
Sorry, y'all missed my point. Scuba divers know that reduced pressure creates air emboli in you blood.

Anyway, I don't think you can pressurize your blood with compressed air in your lungs. I don't think the alveoli are strong enough to withstand much pressure difference. Scuba divers also know not to hold your breath as you ascend.
 
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DaveE said:
Sorry, y'all missed my point. Scuba divers know that reduced pressure creates air emboli in you blood.

Anyway, I don't think you can pressurize your blood with compressed air in your lungs. I don't think the alveoli are strong enough to withstand much pressure difference. Scuba divers also know not to hold your breath as you ascend.
But it's only one atmosphere of pressure. I'd think that isn't enough to cause problems.
 
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Pelf41 said:
If pressure in a vacuum is very low, water can evaporate even at low temperatures, since the lower the pressure, the lower the boiling point.
So, if I were suddenly exposed to the vacuum of space, would my body freeze, or would it expand as the water in my body turned into gas?

There's video of an astronaut experiencing explosive decompression:

 
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DaveE said:
Aside:
"Mask barotrauma (mask squeeze)
When divers do not properly equalize pressure in the face mask with the water pressure during descent, the relatively lower pressure inside the mask causes it to act like a suction cup applied to the eyes and face. The difference in pressure inside and outside the mask causes blood vessels near the surface of the eyes (or on the face) to dilate, leak fluid, and finally burst and bleed."

On his checkout dive (max 30 feet), this poor colleague of mine forgot about equalizing the pressure in his mask. Got two black eyes for his troubles.
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Hornbein said:
But it's only one atmosphere of pressure. I'd think that isn't enough to cause problems.
I don't have a source right now, but I recall that a mere 25% overpressure (i.e.: 1.25atm) is enough to cause alveolar embolism.
 
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DaveE said:
DaveC426913 said:
I don't have a source right now, but I recall that a mere 25% overpressure (i.e.: 1.25atm) is enough to cause alveolar embolism.
The article above is in this ball park. Recall that 33 feet of water is 1 atm.

"Air embolism can occur in as little as 4 feet (about 1 meter) of water when people breathing pressurized air hold their breath while ascending rapidly. Pulmonary barotrauma can even happen in a pool when air is breathed in at depths 3 to 4 feet below the surface (such as from an inverted bucket carried underwater or when scuba gear is being tested there) and not exhaled during ascent."

Alveoli work because they are really thin with huge surface area in total. Probably the weakest part of your body.

PS: Note that diving stress is from positive pressure. Vacuum exposure would be negative pressure. So there may be a difference for barotrauma. Balloons are better at collapsing than expanding. I'd guess air embolism from dissolved gas vaporization would be the same in either case.
 
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Hornbein said:
But it's only one atmosphere of pressure. I'd think that isn't enough to cause problems.
After ONLY 3 hours of research into something I will never do, and in spite of what appears to be contrarian evidence posted after you posted this post, I agree with you.

Most entertaining/sad was the discovery of the 1908 experiments by a Mr. Haldane, on goats.

And while earlier versions of the United States Navy Diving Manual said 10 meters/33 feet was completely safe to swim around forever, the apparent latest version (page 4) says it's now 25 feet. Without another 30 hours of research, which I'm not willing to do, I'd guess those extra 10 feet are non-toxic, but; "I felt something."
 
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OmCheeto said:
And while earlier versions of the United States Navy Diving Manual said 10 meters/33 feet was completely safe to swim around forever, the apparent latest version (page 4) says it's now 25 feet. Without another 30 hours of research, which I'm not willing to do, I'd guess those extra 10 feet are non-toxic, but; "I felt something."
While maybe a bit off topic*...

By "swim around forever" I think you mean without decompression stops in your ascent. Time at depth isn't a problem if you have enough air. Getting home safely is the issue.

This is about air embolism (the bends). It's not about barotrauma (Rule #1: NEVER, EVER, hold your breath!). When I was diving (maybe 15 years ago) decompression stops wouldn't be required for a 33 foot dive, but it was recommended and lots of people did it for longer dives. In part to allow more time on your next dive (your dive computer keeps track better than humans ever would). I'm not really clear about the safety aspect, that depends on your personal health and very recent dive history. That stop would be at about 15 feet, which was always considered safe to ascend from. Also, slow ascents are encouraged. Your dive profile should be deep first and slowly rising, if that's possible. These rules are based on the most susceptible or unluckiest person; "getting away with it" is meaningless in this context. This is a statistical risk avoidance approach.

Technical diving, like the Navy might do, often is for longer duration, more often, and/or more exertion than people floating around looking at pretty fish.

* Is there a badge for hijacking posts? I seem to be doing it more lately.
 

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