What Happens to the Missing Energy in an Inelastic Collision?

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The discussion revolves around a lab experiment involving a ballistic pendulum, specifically focusing on the energy transformations during an inelastic collision. The original poster seeks to understand the discrepancy between the initial kinetic energy of the projectile and the final potential energy of the system.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the nature of the collision, questioning what happens to the energy that seems to be "missing." There is speculation about energy loss to heat and other forms during the collision.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the inelastic nature of the collision and its implications for energy conservation. There is ongoing exploration of why this energy loss does not significantly impact the results of the experiment.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various factors that could affect the energy measurements, such as air resistance and the condition of materials involved in the experiment. There is an acknowledgment of the complexities of real-world physics compared to idealized models.

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i did a lab, the ballistic pendulum, and need help with one of the questions in the lab. here it is:
The initial kinetic energy of the projectile is (mv^2/2). The final potential energy of the system is (M+m)gh. However these two values are not equal in this experiment. Explain what happened to the missing energy and why it doesn't really affect the results.
m=the mass of the ball
M=the mass of the pendulum
any help? thanks
 
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What do you think? Hint: What kind of collision does the projectile undergo?
 
if i had to take an educated guess i would have to say that energy is lost to heat when the ball is embedded into the pendulum. because of this the energy at the top is less than the energy at the bottom. I am not sure if this is correct though.
 
Completely correct! The ball and pendulum undergo an inelastic collision, which transforms some of the ball's original KE into thermal energy.

OK, so why doesn't this "loss" of energy affect your results?
 
leykis101 said:
if i had to take an educated guess i would have to say that energy is lost to heat when the ball is embedded into the pendulum. because of this the energy at the top is less than the energy at the bottom. I am not sure if this is correct though.
Indeed, that is correct. So that would make this collision an ######### collision. You could also perhaps mention air resistance, although it is most probably negligable. So why wouldn't this loss of energy affect your experiment?

Edit: The Doc strikes again...
 
the energy conservation formula refer in ideal
why you test many times?... because there are manythings in reality
such as force againts the wind or rusty of metal

Doc Al said:
Completely correct! The ball and pendulum undergo an inelastic collision, which transforms some of the ball's original KE into thermal energy.

OK, so why doesn't this "loss" of energy affect your results?

yes :!) maybe sound and heat
 
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