What have I done wrong? (projectile motion)

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The discussion revolves around a projectile motion problem involving a cricketer throwing a ball back to the wicket keeper from a distance of 80 meters. The fielder can throw the ball at a speed of 140 km/hr, and the task is to determine the angle at which to throw the ball to ensure it reaches the wicket keeper without hitting the ground.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mixed

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the initial velocity of the ball and its implications for the angle of projection. There are questions about the origin of specific values used in calculations, such as the number 38.9, and whether the heights of the players should be considered in the problem setup.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, exploring different aspects of the projectile motion involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of initial velocity and the range formula, but there is no explicit consensus on the approach or final solution.

Contextual Notes

There is an ongoing discussion about the assumptions made in the problem, particularly regarding the heights of the players and how they may affect the calculations. The original poster expresses difficulty in progressing past certain steps in their calculations.

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Homework Statement


A cricketer fields the ball in the outfield, some 80 meters from the wicket keeper. The fielder needs to return the ball to the wicket keeper as quickly as possible. He can throw the ball with a speed of 140 km/hr. The cricket ball has a mass of 0.0168kg
(e) The fielder decides to throw the ball straight back to the wicket keeper, 80 m away. At what angle to the horizontal must he project the ball so that the ball reaches the wicket keeper without hitting the ground?

This question is worth 8 marks, but I cannot figure out how to do it!

Homework Equations


Vf=Vi+a(delta)t

The Attempt at a Solution


http://imgur.com/OJEDalz

^here's my working out. I just can't get past the last step, and my graphics calculator can't either, making me think I'm doing it completely wrong.
 
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Mayzu said:

Homework Statement


A cricketer fields the ball in the outfield, some 80 meters from the wicket keeper. The fielder needs to return the ball to the wicket keeper as quickly as possible. He can throw the ball with a speed of 140 km/hr. The cricket ball has a mass of 0.0168kg
(e) The fielder decides to throw the ball straight back to the wicket keeper, 80 m away. At what angle to the horizontal must he project the ball so that the ball reaches the wicket keeper without hitting the ground?

This question is worth 8 marks, but I cannot figure out how to do it!

Homework Equations


Vf=Vi+a(delta)t

The Attempt at a Solution


http://imgur.com/OJEDalz

^here's my working out. I just can't get past the last step, and my graphics calculator can't either, making me think I'm doing it completely wrong.

Where does the number 38.9 come from in your work?

I think the right approach is to key in on Vy=0 at 40m, and use the time from that equation to help the rest of your calculations...
 
berkeman said:
Where does the number 38.9 come from in your work?

I think the right approach is to key in on Vy=0 at 40m, and use the time from that equation to help the rest of your calculations...
38.9 is the initial velocity of the ball. That's what I've done, but I'm stuck...
 
Mayzu said:

Homework Statement


A cricketer fields the ball in the outfield, some 80 meters from the wicket keeper. The fielder needs to return the ball to the wicket keeper as quickly as possible. He can throw the ball with a speed of 140 km/hr. The cricket ball has a mass of 0.0168kg
(e) The fielder decides to throw the ball straight back to the wicket keeper, 80 m away. At what angle to the horizontal must he project the ball so that the ball reaches the wicket keeper without hitting the ground?

This question is worth 8 marks, but I cannot figure out how to do it!

Homework Equations


Vf=Vi+a(delta)t

The Attempt at a Solution


http://imgur.com/OJEDalz

^here's my working out. I just can't get past the last step, and my graphics calculator can't either, making me think I'm doing it completely wrong.
Are both of them (the players) assumed to be just two points? Shouldn't their heights be taken into account? In that case, you could use 38.9 as initial velocity (resultant) and put that in the range formula to get sin2θ. That value of θ would be the critical one, means just enough to make the ball reach the ground.
 
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Mayzu said:

Homework Statement


A cricketer fields the ball in the outfield, some 80 meters from the wicket keeper. The fielder needs to return the ball to the wicket keeper as quickly as possible. He can throw the ball with a speed of 140 km/hr. The cricket ball has a mass of 0.0168kg
(e) The fielder decides to throw the ball straight back to the wicket keeper, 80 m away. At what angle to the horizontal must he project the ball so that the ball reaches the wicket keeper without hitting the ground?

This question is worth 8 marks, but I cannot figure out how to do it!

Homework Equations


Vf=Vi+a(delta)t

The Attempt at a Solution


http://imgur.com/OJEDalz

^here's my working out. I just can't get past the last step, and my graphics calculator can't either, making me think I'm doing it completely wrong.
If your calculations are right so far, you're just a step away from the answer. sin2θ is 2sinθcosθ..
 

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