What is a Diffeomorphism and Its Existence in Starlike Sets?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of diffeomorphisms in the context of starlike sets in \(\mathbb{R}^n\). Participants explore how to construct a diffeomorphism from a starlike set to \(\mathbb{R}^n\), addressing both bounded and unbounded cases, and referencing relevant mathematical theories and theorems.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant references a statement from C.C. Pugh's "Real Mathematical Analysis" regarding the construction of a diffeomorphism from a starlike set to \(\mathbb{R}^n\).
  • Another participant suggests using the tangent function to map intervals diffeomorphically to \(\mathbb{R}\) and applying this to lines in the starlike set.
  • A concern is raised about the applicability of the method to unbounded sets, where some lines may not have defined ends.
  • Discussion includes the assumption that the starlike set \(U\) is open, with references to the Riemann mapping theorem for simply-connected star-shaped sets in two dimensions.
  • There is a disagreement about whether the identity function can serve as a diffeomorphism if \(U\) is not open, with some participants asserting it cannot be bijective unless \(U\) is \(\mathbb{R}^n\).
  • One participant proposes mapping points to the origin and using the Mean Value Theorem to demonstrate maximal rank, suggesting the use of the inverse function theorem for proving diffeomorphism.
  • Another participant suggests shrinking directions using the arctan function to handle unbounded sets, proposing a method to contract and then expand the set.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the assumptions regarding the openness of the starlike set and the validity of the identity function as a diffeomorphism. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to handle unbounded sets and the conditions under which a diffeomorphism can be constructed.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in their approaches, particularly regarding the handling of unbounded sets and the need for further exploration of the properties of starlike sets.

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While reading C.C.Pugh's "Real Mathematical Analysis" I've encountered a following statement:

"A starlike set [tex]U \subset \mathbb{R}^n[/tex] contains a point [tex]p[/tex] such that the line segment from each [tex]q\in U[/tex] to [tex]p[/tex] lies in [tex]U[/tex]. It is not hard to construct a diffeomorphism from [tex]U[/tex] to [tex]\mathbb{R}^n[/tex]."

It's little embarassing, but despite my best effort, I cannot figure out how to do it.
I appreciate any help.
Thanks in advance!
 
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U can map the intervall [-pi/2,pi/2] diffeomorphically to R via
[tex] x\mapsto \tan x[/tex]

You can apply that to every line in your star-shapped set. It's just "blowing up" the set.
 
Thank you for your response.
I'm still not sure about how to make it work. Assuming bounded set, we can find the "ends" of the line and treat it like ends of [-pi/2, pi/2] interval with [tex]p[/tex] as 0, and "blow" the line to infinite length.

I'm more concerned about unbounded sets, where some lines doesn't have "end".
 
Probably U is assumed to be open? If n=2, you can use that star shaped sets (sorry, I am used to "star shaped" instead of "starlike") are simply-connected and then use the Riemann mapping theorem from complex analysis. For general n, I think it is much harder. E.g. see here at MathOverflow, and here. I am curious to hear if Pere Callahan has an easy proof!
 
I don't get it. If U isn't required to be open, then I don't think it's true. And if it is open, then wouldn't the identity function satisfy this?
 
some_dude said:
I don't get it. If U isn't required to be open, then I don't think it's true.
Yeah, see the first sentence of my post :)
And if it is open, then wouldn't the identity function satisfy this?
Huh? Are you asserting that the identity map is a diffeo? This is obiously not true since it is isn't even bijective (unless of course U happens to be R^n itself) ... :confused:
 
Ohhh, stupid me, you want the image of the function to be R^n I bet...

Why map P to the origin, and then for ray originating at p approaching a point on the boundary of U, map that to a corresponding ray originating at 0 (= f(p)) approaching infinity. Apply the MVT to projections of the line segments to show it has maximal rank everywhere. Then, I think, you can use the inverse function theorem to show its a diffeo?
 
losiu99 said:
I'm more concerned about unbounded sets, where some lines doesn't have "end".
Then find a way to reduce the general problem to the bounded problem.

It might be worth making sure your method really doesn't work in this case first...
 
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losiu99 said:
I'm more concerned about unbounded sets, where some lines doesn't have "end".


Maybe you can first shrink every direction by applying an arctan function to get something bounded. It should even be possible to contract everything to a ball around the center of the star. Then expand it again. This would certainly (at least I think so:smile:) be a bijection. I don't know if there are exotic cases where this function would not be a diffeomorphism.
 
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Thank you very much for your responses. At the first glance it looks like the links contain everything I need. I shall think about concracting-expanding idea as well, since it looks promising.
Thank you all once again.
 
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These links are indeed quite interesting. I'm often surprised about how exotic objects of low dimensional topology can be. Maybe I just know too little about it.
 

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