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The discussion revolves around understanding a specific step in the proof of the product rule for derivatives as presented in "Mathematical Methods for Physicists" by Riley and Hobson. Participants explore the rationale behind the derivation and the definition of the derivative itself.
The discussion contains multiple viewpoints regarding the approach to proving the product rule and the interpretation of the derivative. No consensus is reached on the necessity of the specific calculation mentioned.
There are unresolved aspects regarding the assumptions made in the proof and the specific steps involved in applying the derivative definition to the product rule.
I don't knowSimon Bridge said:Do you know why they bothered to work out f(x+Δx)−f(x)f(x+\Delta x) - f(x) at all?
I mean: what's the point?
yes, derivative is the rate of one function to another function, it actually says how fast one function changes with respect to other, am I right?Simon Bridge said:How would you normally go about proving the product rule - if you didn't have the example from Riley and Hobson?
i.e. do you know the definition of the derivative?
Not exactly ... that was the description of what the derivative is, not the definition. The definition is: $$f^\prime(x) = \lim_{\Delta x\to 0}\frac{f(x+\Delta x) - f(x)}{\Delta x}$$ ... this gives the derivative of f(x) with respect to x.yes, derivative is the rate of one function to another function, it actually says how fast one function changes with respect to other, am I right?
got it. Thank youSimon Bridge said:Not exactly ... that was the description of what the derivative is, not the definition. The definition is: $$f^\prime(x) = \lim_{\Delta x\to 0}\frac{f(x+\Delta x) - f(x)}{\Delta x}$$ ... this gives the derivative of f(x) with respect to x.
To prove the product rule, first set ##f(x)=v(x)u(x)## then apply the definition to f.