What is Gravitational Potential and How Does it Vary with Distance?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of gravitational potential, its definition, the significance of the negative sign in its formula, and how it varies with distance from the center of the Earth to its surface and beyond. Participants are seeking clarification on these concepts, particularly in the context of A-level physics.

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  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant defines gravitational potential as the work done in bringing a unit mass from infinity to a specific point, expressing confusion over its meaning.
  • Another participant questions the significance of the negative sign in the formula for gravitational potential, suggesting it relates to gravitational force being an attractive force.
  • A participant mentions that gravitational potential is defined as zero at infinite distance, implying that the negative sign is necessary to indicate that potential is higher at greater distances.
  • There is a correction regarding the formula for gravitational potential, with one participant stating it should be -GM/r instead of -GM/r².
  • Some participants suggest starting with the concept of electric fields as a simpler analogy to understand gravitational potential.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding and confusion regarding gravitational potential, particularly about the formula and the implications of the negative sign. There is no consensus on the explanations provided, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants have differing interpretations of the gravitational potential formula and its implications, with some assumptions about the reference point for potential remaining unaddressed.

chocofingers
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Hello everyone, :)

I have yet another queries in physics.

What actually is gravitational potential ? I know the definition that it is the work done in bringing unit mass from infinity to the particular point. But I don't understand what actually it means...
Plus the definition of gravitational potential ... gravitational potential = - (GM/r^2) Now what's the importance of negative sign in this definition...

Plus where is the G.potential maximum and how does it vary with distance from centre of Earth to the surface of Earth and beyond it ?

I am an A-level student giving physics from CIE board so please explain me with in these limits ... ANy extra info is very well appreciated...

Thankz in advance :)
 
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nobody knows about gravitational potential :S... Anybody /??
 
Wikipedia is a good starting point:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_potential

It 'represents the work (energy) per unit mass as an object moves to that location from a reference location'.

As the potential to do work increases with distance, what potential should infinite distance have? It was decided to define that potential as zero and the negative sign is then required to make the potential high up more than close to the Earth.

For an older related discussion of gravity inside the Earth, see
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=207148
 
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thank you
 
chocofingers said:
Hello everyone, :)

Plus the definition of gravitational potential ... gravitational potential = - (GM/r^2) Now what's the importance of negative sign in this definition...

and it's not r^2, it's r! :D

-\frac{GM}{r}

And the minus thingy is Gravitational force is always an attraction force. So it's minus. That's one explanation. There's another. It is generally considered the potential at infinity is zero and when to move a mass to another mass from that infinity point which is imaginary, that other mass do the work to pull.
 

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