What Is Instantaneous Velocity?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of instantaneous velocity, specifically how it is defined and calculated in relation to average velocity. Participants are exploring the mathematical representation of instantaneous velocity and its graphical interpretation.

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  • Participants discuss the definition of instantaneous velocity as the limit of average velocity as the time interval approaches zero. There are questions about the clarity of the explanation regarding the tangent line and what graph it pertains to. Some participants also highlight the need for direction in velocity and question the interpretation of slopes in different contexts.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the definitions and mathematical expressions related to instantaneous velocity. Some participants provide clarifications and corrections to earlier statements, while others are questioning the assumptions made in the original explanations. The discussion is productive, with various interpretations being examined.

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Participants are navigating through potential misunderstandings regarding the graphs involved, specifically distinguishing between position-time and velocity-time graphs. There is also mention of grading feedback, which indicates varying levels of understanding among participants.

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The question was, Explain instantaneous velocity.

My answer:
Limit as delta(t) approaches zero of average velocity is inst. velocity. Or as delta(t) approaches zero, average velocity approaches inst. velocity.
inst. velocity is the slope of the tangent line at a given point...

Then I wrote:
V = Lim Delta(Average Velocity)/Delta(t)
Delta(t) --> 0


Is my answer totally wrong because I got 5/10 pts on the answer?
 
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tangent (of what graph) gives magnitude. velocity also needs a direction.
 
This is the picture I added...
 

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Isnt saying slope of a tangent line at a "given point" general? It can be any point...
 
Miike012 said:
The question was, Explain instantaneous velocity.

My answer:
Limit as delta(t) approaches zero of average velocity is inst. velocity. Or as delta(t) approaches zero, average velocity approaches inst. velocity.
inst. velocity is the slope of the tangent line at a given point...

Then I wrote:
V = Lim Delta(Average Velocity)/Delta(t)
Delta(t) --> 0Is my answer totally wrong because I got 5/10 pts on the answer?
Your answer isn't totally wrong - its only half wrong, that's why you got half marks :wink:.

The first thing to point out is that the average velocity is

[tex]v_\text{ave} = \frac{\Delta x}{\Delta t},[/tex]

so your limit becomes

[tex]V = \lim_{\Delta t\to0} \left(\frac{\Delta x}{\Delta t}\right)/\Delta t = \lim_{\Delta t\to0} \Delta x,[/tex]

which obviously isn't correct. So the limit you wrote, wasn't correct. The first part however, was okay:
Miike012 said:
Limit as delta(t) approaches zero of average velocity is inst. velocity. Or as delta(t) approaches zero, average velocity approaches inst. velocity.
inst.
However, your next sentence wasn't very clear:
Miike012 said:
velocity is the slope of the tangent line at a given point...
The tangent line to what? What are you plotting?

A better answer would have been as follows. The instantaneous velocity is equal to the average velocity in the limit as [itex]\Delta t\to0[/itex], or more generally, the derivative of position with respect to time. The velocity at a given point in time is equal to the gradient of the displacement at that point in time on a displacement-time graph.

In one dimension,

[tex]v = \lim_{t\to t_0} \frac{x(t_0)-x(t)}{t-t_0} = \frac{\text{d}x}{\text{d}t}.[/tex]

Does that make sense?
 
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Miike012 said:
This is the picture I added...
Well, there's your mistake. That slope is acceleration! :cry:

An "average velocity" graph doesn't make much sense (in this context). A velocity graph is velocity versus time, and that's instantaneous velocity, anyway. Or speed.

You were thinking of a position versus time graph, and finding the tangent to it.
 
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