What is magnetic potential energy?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of magnetic potential energy, specifically addressing the question of how inductors store energy despite the assertion that magnetic fields do no work. Participants explore the relationship between magnetic fields, electric fields, and the work done in various energy transformations.

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  • Debate/contested
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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that magnetic fields do no work, questioning how inductors can store energy.
  • Another participant challenges this assertion, arguing that magnetic fields can store and transfer energy to other forms, citing the Lorentz force and the interdependence of electric and magnetic fields.
  • A different participant agrees that magnetic fields do not do work, attributing the work to the induced electric field instead.
  • Another participant suggests that the magnetic and electric fields should be considered as components of the electromagnetic field, indicating that magnetic fields can exert work on charged particles through their magnetic dipole moments.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding whether magnetic fields do work. Some maintain that they do not, while others argue that they can transfer energy and do work under certain conditions.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights differing interpretations of the role of magnetic fields in energy storage and transfer, with references to specific physical principles such as the Lorentz force and the behavior of electric and magnetic fields in inductors.

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We know that a Magnetic field does no work. Then how does an inductor store energy (1/2 LI2)? When that stored energy is needed, it can be retrieved back and clearly it can be used to do some work. In a fix here.
 
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Who says a mag field does no work? Who? Mag fields store energy then transfer said energy to the form of electric, electromagnetic, thermal, kinetic, and/or chemical energy domain(s). Have you studied physics or EE extensively? Just curious why you make such sweeping generalizations such as a mag field doing no work, as if it were undisputed gospel? Nothing personal but what is the basis for saying mag fields do no work?

The only reason some give are the Lorentz force relations where mag force acts normal to a charge carrier's velocity. In this case the mag Lorentz force, Fm = quXB, is indeed not doing work on the charge carrier. But E & B fields are mutual & interdependent so that one of them, or both, can do work on dipoles, motors, etc. Also, if an inductor de-energizes into a passive network loop, the time varying B field includes an E field which does work on the charges. B transferred its energy to E which can do work on charges.

This is a topic which cannot be explained in a few posts. I will elaborate if needed.

Claude
 
Well, the Magnetic field still does no work. It is the induced electric field that does the work. Got this cleared from somewhere and partially from the second half of your answer.

This is a topic which CAN be explained in a single post. I will elaborate if needed.
 
It's better to think of the magnetic field and electric field as part of the same thing: the electromagnetic field. Even if you want to make a distinction, the magnetic field still does work on charged particles through their magnetic dipole moments.
 

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