What is nuclear symmetry energy?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of nuclear symmetry energy, exploring its theoretical underpinnings, mathematical representations, and implications in nuclear physics. Participants delve into the role of asymmetry in nuclear binding and the effects of quantum mechanics on energy calculations.

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  • Some participants describe the strong force in nuclei as symmetric under the exchange of neutrons and protons, while noting that other forces, like electromagnetic repulsion, are not symmetric and act as perturbations.
  • A mathematical formulation for energy density in the nuclear medium is proposed, involving an asymmetry parameter and its expansion around saturation density.
  • One participant questions whether the symmetry energy can be interpreted as the energy needed to increase the asymmetry between neutrons and protons in the nucleus, such as through processes like electron capture.
  • Another participant asks why the symmetry energy expression includes only the squared asymmetry parameter and not the first power, indicating a potential area of confusion or debate.
  • Two participants suggest a calculation involving potential energy in a brick wall analogy to explore the dependency of total energy on the difference between neutron and proton numbers while keeping their sum fixed.
  • A later reply discusses the subtleties of using liquid-drop energies in conjunction with quantum-mechanical corrections, emphasizing the need to avoid double-counting energies in different terms and clarifying the role of the asymmetry energy as a quantum-mechanical effect.

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Participants express varying interpretations of the symmetry energy and its implications, with no clear consensus reached on certain aspects, such as the interpretation of the asymmetry parameter and its mathematical representation.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in understanding the role of different energy components and the potential for confusion regarding the application of quantum-mechanical corrections in energy calculations.

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in a nutshell
 
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The strong force which is binding in nuclei is symmetric under the exchange neutron <-> proton (or down <-> up). There are other forces, for instance the electromagnetic repulsion between two protons, which are not binding and not symmetric. As the name suggests, the non-symmetric part is only a perturbation. So, using the asymmetry parameter
\alpha = \frac{N-Z}{A}
and the density \rho, we develop the energy density in the nuclear medium E(\rho,\alpha) as a Taylor series
E(\rho,\alpha) = E(\rho,0) + S(\rho)\alpha^2 + O(\alpha^4) + \cdots
and expanding around the saturation density \rho_s
S(\rho) = \left.\frac{1}{2}\frac{\partial^2 E}{\partial\alpha^2}\right|_{\alpha=0,\rho=\rho_s}=a_v+\frac{p_0}{\rho_s^2}(\rho-\rho_s)+\cdots
The symmetry energy a_v\approx 29 \pm 2 MeV

source : The nuclear symmetry energy
 
So, is it useful to think of it as the energy required to increase the asymmetry between N and Z in the nucleus, say, by electron capture?
 
why in the symmetry energy only squared asymmetry parameter are exist and there is not the first power of asymmetry parameter?
 
Calculate the average potential energy of a brick in a brick wall of height N. Calculate the same for a wall of height Z. Keep the sum of the height A = Z + N fixed but allow their difference (N - Z) to be a free parameter. Find out the dependency of the total energy on that free parameter.
 
dauto said:
Calculate the average potential energy of a brick in a brick wall of height N. Calculate the same for a wall of height Z. Keep the sum of the height A = Z + N fixed but allow their difference (N - Z) to be a free parameter. Find out the dependency of the total energy on that free parameter.

Nice explanation. I would add that this topic is a little subtle because often we want to use these liquid-drop energies in the Strutinsky smearing technique, where we add in a quantum-mechanical shell correction. When we do that, we have two terms in the energy, classical and quantum-mechanical. We have to be careful not to double-count a particular energy in both the classical and the quantum-mechanical term (Strutinsky shell correction). As dauto correctly explains, the asymmetry energy is a quantum-mechanical effect arising from the exclusion principle. So you would think you should include it only in the quantum-mechanical term. However, the Strutinsky technique for, say, the neutrons, only adds a correction that represents the difference in binding energy between nucleus (N,Z) and the average of other nuclei (N+x,Z), where x is small, and this correction vanishes when the levels are uniformly spaced. So clearly the effect as described by dauto is not included in the Strutinsky correction, because it would occur even if the levels were uniformly spaced.
 

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