What is the acceleration due to gravity?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving two balls in free fall, focusing on the forces acting on them and their acceleration due to gravity. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the acceleration of the balls, questioning whether it can exceed the acceleration due to gravity.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between mass and acceleration in free fall, with some questioning the original poster's assumption that acceleration could be greater than gravity. There is also exploration of the effects of air resistance on different objects.

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Participants have provided clarifications regarding the nature of free fall and the independence of acceleration from mass. The conversation has shifted towards understanding the implications of these principles in different scenarios, such as dropping objects in a vacuum versus in the presence of air resistance.

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The original poster mentions a lack of velocity or time information, which they believe may be necessary for solving the problem. There is an ongoing exploration of the assumptions related to the effects of air resistance on falling objects.

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Ok, I'm having some difficulty with a problem. It just doesn't add up.

1. Homework Statement

Consider a 2.4kg ball and a 12.4kg ball in free fall. A) Find the Force that is acting on each ball. B) Find the acceleration of each ball, given Earth's gravity of 9.80 m/s/s.

Homework Equations


\omega = mg

F=ma => a=\frac{F}{m}

The Attempt at a Solution



formula:

F1=23.52N
F2=121.52N\frac{23.52N}{2.4kg}= 9.80\frac{m}{s^2}
\frac{121.52N}{12.4kg}= 9.80\frac{m}{s^2}
I've solved the Force, part A, but the acceleration, part B, is making me crazier. I come out with g (9.8m/s2), this can't be correct!? So I think I must be missing a Kinematics formula, but I have neither velocity or time to work with.

The ball has a weight, so the acceleration of both balls must be faster than gravity? Correct?Any help in the right direction would be appreciated. Thanks!
 
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omar1 said:
I've solved the Force, part A, but the acceleration, part B, is making me crazier. I come out with g (9.8m/s2), this can't be correct!?
Why not?

omar1 said:
So I think I must be missing a Kinematics formula, but I have neither velocity or time to work with.
Nope. You just realized that the acceleration of an object in free fall does not depend on its mass.

If you write this symbolically, you'll have an easier time seeing it:
##\Sigma F = ma##
##mg = ma##
##a = g##

omar1 said:
The ball has a weight, so the acceleration of both balls must be faster than gravity? Correct?
No.
 
Ok, soo.. if I were to drop a feather and a Boeing 747 from 20k ft, they'd both have the same acceleration?
 
If you ignore air resistance, yep. All objects on Earth have the same acceleration. The heavier weight is offset by its larger inertia. Feathers feel the force that air applies to them much more than a 747 would. But with no atmosphere to get in the way, the feather and 747 hit the ground simultaneously. It's beautiful when you think about it.
 
omar1 said:
Ok, soo.. if I were to drop a feather and a Boeing 747 from 20k ft, they'd both have the same acceleration?
Yep, if they are in free fall. (Which means that the only force is gravity--no air resistance to worry about.)
 
omar1 said:
Ok, soo.. if I were to drop a feather and a Boeing 747 from 20k ft, they'd both have the same acceleration?
In vacuum, yes. The crew of Apollo 15 demonstrated that on the moon. They didn't have a Boeing 747, they used a hammer.
 

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