What Is the Acceleration of a Falling Rod at 55 Degrees?

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The problem involves a thin uniform rod that pivots about a hinge as it falls, specifically at an angle of 55 degrees. The objective is to determine the acceleration of the end of the rod farthest from the hinge, given its weight and length.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of torque and the correct application of forces, particularly the weight of the rod and its point of application. There are attempts to clarify the angle used in torque calculations and the geometry involved.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the correct application of the weight force and the geometry of the situation. There is an ongoing exploration of the calculations, with differing opinions on the angle used in torque calculations and the position of the weight force.

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There is a noted uncertainty regarding the angle between the force of gravity and the rod, as well as the correct point of application for the weight force. Participants are encouraged to draw sketches to clarify their reasoning.

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Homework Statement



A very thin uniform rod, 2.40 m long and of weight 135 N, has a frictionless hinge at its lower end. It starts out vertically from resting on a wall and falls, pivoting about the hinge. Just as it has rotated through an angle of 55 degrees, the acceleration of the end farthest from the hinge is what?

Homework Equations



[tex]\tau = I[/tex][tex]\alpha[/tex]
[tex]\tau[/tex] = R X F = |R| |F| sin(angle between)

I for thin rod,
I = (1/3)MR2

The Attempt at a Solution



To find R X F I tried to find the angle between the force of gravity and the pivot. If you place both vectors at the pivot, R will be 35 degrees above the horizontal (after falling 55 degrees), and gravity will be directly down, so I believe the angle between them is 90+35 = 125 degrees? This is one thing I'm not entirely sure about.

[tex]\tau[/tex] = 2.4M * 135N * sin(125)

Then finding I,
I = (1/3)(135N/9.8)*2.42

And then doing T/I to find the angular acceleration,
(135N * sin(125)) / ( (1/3)(135N/9.8)*2.4) ~= 9.69

Finally, multiply that by the radius of 2.4M to get the linear acceleration. This didn't give me right answer though.
 
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The interior angle between the force and rod is not correct. Draw a sketch and use some geometry. Also, where along the length of the rod should you apply the weight force acting on the rod?
 
Weight acts at the center of the rod.
So the torque = F*R/2*sinθ
 
I think the angle is actually correct, I just didn't know the weight acted on the center of mass.

Torque = 135N * 1.2M * sin(125)

Dividing that by the moment of inertia and them multiplying by the radius gave me the correct answer.
 

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PherricOxide said:
I think the angle is actually correct, I just didn't know the weight acted on the center of mass.

Torque = 135N * 1.2M * sin(125)

Dividing that by the moment of inertia and them multiplying by the radius gave me the correct answer.
To be technically and graphically correct in calculating the torque of the weight force about the pivot, it's T=r X F = 1.2*135*sin(55) clockwise, where r is the position vector from the cm to the pivot, F is the weight vector applied at the cm, and theta is the angle between the position vector and the force vector at the point of application of the force. You get the same answer, but be careful in drawing the sketch. The weight acts down at the cm, not at the pivot. Or its T= (perpendicuar distance from the pivot to the line of action of the force) *(force) = 1.2*sin(55)*135, clockwise, again, same result.
 

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