What is the acceleration of a particle sliding down an inclined plane?

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The problem involves a tile sliding down a roof modeled as an inclined plane at 30 degrees. The friction between the tile and the roof is characterized by a coefficient of 0.4, and the tile is treated as a particle of mass 'm'. The objective is to determine the acceleration of the tile as it slides down the incline.

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  • Participants discuss the forces acting on the tile, including gravitational and frictional forces. There is a focus on the equation of motion and the challenge of having two unknowns, particularly the mass 'm'. Some participants suggest simplifying the equation by dividing through by 'm'. Questions arise about the necessity of finding 'm' to solve for acceleration.

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The discussion has seen attempts to clarify the relationship between the forces and the resulting acceleration. Some participants have provided hints and encouragement, while others have expressed confusion about the need for mass in the calculations. A participant indicates they have resolved their confusion and calculated the acceleration, but the discussion remains open for further exploration of the problem.

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Participants note the challenge of working with two unknowns and the reliance on the mass 'm', which is not provided. There is an emphasis on understanding the setup and assumptions involved in the problem.

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Homework Statement


A tile on a roof becomes loose and slides from rest down the roof. The roof is modeled as a plane inclined at 30 degrees to the horizontal. The co-efficent of friction between the tile and the roof is 0.4. The tile is modeled as a particle of mass 'm'kg.

a) Find the acceleration of the particle as it slides down the roof.

Homework Equations


Fr(Friction Force)=uR
Reaction force from the plane = mgcos(angle)
Fr= 0.4mgcos(angle)
The force of the particle sliding down the plane x = mgsin(angle)
Total force going down the plane is x - Fr=ma

The Attempt at a Solution


R = mgcos(30)
F = uR
Fr= 0.4mgcos(30).

Total force down the plane as it is sldiing down is:
mgsin(30) - 0.4mgcos(30) = ma

I can't solve this, as there are TWO unknowns, then there's the fact I can't find m. I've tried looking thorugh textbooks but no avail.

This is my first post here =) I am attempting to complete as many practice examination questions throughout March and started early instead.

I believe once I answer a), the rest will be easy as well (a needs to be answered for b and c).

Thanks to all!
 
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Lavace said:
Total force down the plane as it is sldiing down is:
mgsin(30) - 0.4mgcos(30) = ma

I can't solve this, as there are TWO unknowns, then there's the fact I can't find m. I've tried looking thorugh textbooks but no avail.
Hint: Divide by m. :wink:
 
Lavace said:
mgsin(30) - 0.4mgcos(30) = ma

I can't solve this, as there are TWO unknowns, then there's the fact I can't find m. I've tried looking thorugh textbooks but no avail.

Are you sure you need to find m? :wink:

Edit: too late, and too similar. :smile:
 
Dear god, I feel embarressed.

I have worked it out, THANK YOU.
mgsin30 - 0.4mgcos(30) = ma

All over m

gsin30 - 0.4gcos(30) = a
1.50 ... = a
1.5ms^-2 = a

Thank you all, I can resume studying now :)
Such a speed reply!
 

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