What Is the Acceleration of a Thrown Ball at Its Peak?

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The discussion revolves around two problems related to motion: one involving the acceleration of a thrown ball and the other concerning the meeting point of two model cars on a track. The first problem focuses on understanding the effects of gravity on the ball's acceleration during its upward and downward motion, while the second problem involves calculating distances based on uniform and accelerated motion.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the implications of gravitational acceleration on the ball's motion, questioning whether the acceleration is positive or negative at various points. They also discuss the consistency of gravitational acceleration throughout the ball's trajectory.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights regarding the nature of gravitational acceleration, suggesting that it remains constant and directed downwards throughout the ball's motion. There is an ongoing exploration of how this affects the acceleration values at different points in the ball's trajectory.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the implications of defining upward as positive and how this affects the sign of gravitational acceleration in their reasoning. There is also a focus on the assumptions made regarding the uniformity of motion for the model cars.

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Homework Statement


Problem A:

A ball is thrown upwards and returns to the throwers hand.
Air resistance is ignored and the upwards direction is taken as positive.
Circle the correct values for the acceleration of the ball:

Going up : g / 0 / -g
At max height: g / 0 / -g
Going down: g / 0 / -g


Problem B:

2 model cars are at opposite ends of a 2000mm track.
When timing starts A is moving with a uniform velocity of 50mms-1 towards B.
B starts from rest when timing starts, then accelerates uniformly at 4mms-2 for 10s and then continues towards A with the uniform velocity it has reached.

Calculate the distance from the initial position of A the two cars meet.

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The Attempt at a Solution



Problem A:

On the way up the ball is moving in the opposite direction to the force of gravity so g will be -ve as the ball is deccelerating

Then on the way down the opposite is true so g will be +ve.

However at the max height I know the acceleration cannot be 0 as the ball is still being pulled by the force of gravity however I can't decide whether it would be +ve or -ve g.

I think it must be -ve as at the max height it then immediately starts moving downwards so it must have just experienced an acceleration to make it move downwards?

Or should that all be reversed because of the upwards is positive clause?

Problem B:

I calculated the distance traveled by both A and B during the first 10 seconds and got:

A travels 500mm
B travels 200mm

Then there is 1300mm of track left.

A is traveling at 50mms-1 as it is traveling at constant uniform velocity.
I then calculated that B is traveling at 40mms-1 in the opposite direction.

Then I looked at it from the point of view of A.

So A is traveling effectively at 90mms-1 over 1300mm to meet with B.

This then allows me to calculate that that time taken to cover this distance would be 24.444... seconds.

Then I add on the 10 seconds I used earlier.

And use s = 0.5 * (u + v) * t with the values for A to find a distance of 1222.222... mm away from A's starting point?
 
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for problem A:

Ask your self if g represents gravitational acceleration has it changed at all after throwing the ball and then catching it?
 
jedishrfu said:
for problem A:

Ask your self if g represents gravitational acceleration has it changed at all after throwing the ball and then catching it?

So then the acceleration would be -g in all cases as the acceleration vector would be downwards in all cases and its been specified that upwards is positive?
 
trollcast said:
So then the acceleration would be -g in all cases as the acceleration vector would be downwards in all cases and its been specified that upwards is positive?
that would be a yes
 

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