What is the acceleration of two blocks connected with friction?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving two blocks connected and pulled by a force, with friction acting against their motion. The blocks have specified masses and a coefficient of friction, and the goal is to determine their acceleration.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the applied force, friction, and the resulting acceleration. There are attempts to calculate the force of friction and its impact on the overall motion of the blocks. Questions arise regarding the role of the applied force and the correct setup for the equations involved.

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Some participants have provided guidance on calculating the force of friction and interpreting the forces acting on the blocks. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct setup for the equations, with multiple interpretations of the forces involved being discussed.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of force directions and the application of friction in the context of the problem. There is a noted confusion regarding the integration of the coefficient of friction into the calculations.

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Homework Statement


A block of mass m1 = 2 kg and a block of mass m2 = 3 kg are tied together and are pulled from rest across the floor by a force of Fp = 20 N. The coefficient of friction of the blocks with the floor is µ = 0.23.



Homework Equations


What is the acceleration of the two blocks?


The Attempt at a Solution


a=F/(m1 + m2)
a=20N/(2kg + 3kg)
a=4 m/s^2 ?

I know that somehow µ = 0.23 is involved, but i don't know where to use it.
 
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u = 0.23 is the coefficient of friction, used in the formula F = u*Fn,
where Fn is the "normal" force pressing the object against the surface it is moving on.
Begin by calculating the force of friction on each block.
 
I still don't understand. What is the force of Fp=20 N? and where does that fit in
 
Someone is pulling the blocks with a force of 20 N.
There is a friction force opposing that, which you are about to calculate.
Once you have the two forces acting on the blocks, you can use F = ma to find the acceleration.
 
I tried calculating the force of friction on each block, but my answers still weren't correct. what is the correct set up? that's all i need to know to see where i made the mistake.
 
Use F = u*Fn to find the force of friction. Show your calc and we'll find your error.
 
F1=u*Fn
-mg=u*Fn
-mg/u*=Fn
-2*9.81/0.23=-85

F2=-mg+Fp+u*Fn
mg-Fp=u*Fn
mg-Fp/u*=Fn
3*9.81-20/0.23=41
 
"-mg+Fp+u*Fn " is not correct.
mg, the weight, is downward while Fp is horizontal.
You can't add forces in different directions.

First, figure out the force of friction.
Ff = u*Fn = ?
Fn is the normal force, pressing the blocks against the surface. It is caused by gravity. Can you work it out?

After you get Ff, write "sum of forces = ma" for the horizontal direction.
You'll have the 20 N pulling force and the friction force opposing the motion.
Solve for acceleration.
 

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