What is the Angle, Velocity, and Time for Canoeing Across a River?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving canoeing across a river, specifically focusing on the angle Jason must aim his canoe, his velocity while crossing, and the time it will take to reach his tent. The subject area includes kinematics and vector resolution in the context of motion in a fluid medium.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of the angle using trigonometric functions and question the validity of the initial attempts at finding velocity and time. There is mention of using the Pythagorean theorem to resolve the components of motion.

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Some participants have provided feedback on the calculations, indicating potential errors in the approach to parts b) and c). There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the components of velocity and the overall distance traveled, with no clear consensus reached on the correctness of the methods used.

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Participants are navigating through the complexities of vector addition and the implications of the river's current on the canoe's trajectory. There is a recognition that assumptions about the problem setup may need to be revisited.

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Homework Statement



Jason is canoeing the Ohio River,Jason forgot his tent on the western shore. Jason is on the Eastern shore directly east of his tent. Jason is going upstream on the river.

The velocity of the river is Vr +3.311 M/S due North
The speed of the canoe relative to the water is Vc=5.471 m/s
The width of the river is W=69702

A)At what angle relative ti the East-West line must Jason aim his canoe?Theta=
B)What is Jason's velocity as he crosses the river?V=
C)How long will it be before Jason gets to his tint?T=

Homework Equations


sin theta=opp/hyp
t=d/v
v=d/t

The Attempt at a Solution


A)I'm not sure if I'm correct but to find the angle,I did this:

sin theta= 3.311 m/s / 5.471 m/s
theta=36.8 degrees

b)To find the velocity:
v=d/t

69702m/15769s=4.42 m/s

c)To find the time:
t=d/v

69702m/4.42m/s=15769s

Something is telling me that this problem is not as simple as it seems. Some folks used the pythagorean theorem. Are my answers correct,if not Please help. Thanx
 
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Your first answer is correct. For the last two, I don't know what you've done: you appear to be using numbers in the second question that you havn't obtained until the third, and where does 4.42 come from?

I would use pythagoras for the second question.
 
Thanx Cristo its truly apreciated,

Forget the 4.42 stuff that's all wrong I believe.

But I used the pythagorean for the second and here what i got:

first to find the adj side

tan 36.8 degrees= adj/6.9702m

adj=52127m


I used the pythagorean:

I used r=hyp x=adj y=opp
trying to find the hypotenuse side now

r=Sqrt x^2+y^2

r=(52137)^2+(69702)^2
r=87044m


5.461m/s-3.11m/s= 2.31 m/s is his velocity

C)To find the time:T=D/V
Distance I used the hyp. distance and the velocity I used his speed with respect to the water
87044m/2.31m/s=37681s
t=37681s


B)
V=D/T
V=87043.8m/37681s=2.31m/s
v=2.31m/s
I think this maybe more like it,let me know if its correct. Thanx again
 
Part b) and c) don't look right to me.

For part b) use the triangle with one side 3.311 m/s another side 5.471 m/s and angle
theta=36.8 degrees.

what is the 3rd side? what does this third side represent?
 
learningphysics are you sure because everything works out in this problem for b and c. For B if i just subtract 5.471m/s-3.311m/s=2.31m/s which i think is correct. To find the time it takes i just simply divide the length of that hypotenuse by his velocity with respect to the river of 2.31m/s. DO you still see something wrong? Someone help please...
 
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