Determine the range of a function using parameter differentiation

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The discussion revolves around determining the range of a function defined by an integral, specifically using differentiation under the integral sign. The function in question is expressed as an integral with variable limits and involves exponential decay and trigonometric components.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the application of the Leibniz rule for differentiation under the integral sign, questioning the correctness of their derivatives and the handling of variable limits. There are discussions about breaking up the integral and the implications of having the variable x both as a limit and within the integrand. Some participants also raise concerns about the coefficients in the derived expressions.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants actively questioning each other's interpretations and calculations. Some have provided insights into the differentiation process, while others are seeking clarification on specific aspects of the integral and its evaluation. There is no explicit consensus on the next steps or the final outcome.

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Participants note the complexity introduced by the variable limits of integration and the nature of the integrand, which includes both x and t. There is also mention of a bonus question regarding the justification for differentiation under the integral sign, indicating the need for a function that satisfies certain conditions.

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Homework Statement
Determine the range of ##f(x)## for ##x>0## using differentiation under the integral sign.
Relevant Equations
##f(x)=\int_x^{2x} (\frac{e^{-t^2x}}{t}) \ dt ## for ##x>0##.
The strategy here would probably be to find a differential equation that ##f## satisfies, but differentiating with respect to ##x## using Leibniz rule yields

##f'=\int_x^{2x} (-te^{-t^2x}) \ dt + \frac{2e^{-4x^3}-e^{-x^3}}{x}##​

Continuing to differentiate will yield the integral term again (with ##t^3## instead of ##-t##) together with the derivative of the second term above. Is this the right strategy?

As a bonus question. Consider the function ##4t^2e^{-t^2}\cos{(2xt)}##. This is the second derivative w.r.t. ##x## of the function ##e^{-t^2}\cos{(2xt)}##. Now see the attached image. How does one find a function ##g(t)## that satisfies the inequality in the theorem stated in order to justify the differentiation under the integral sign? (##t## ranges from ##0## to ##\infty## and ##x\in\textbf{R}##)

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schniefen said:
Homework Statement: Determine the range of ##f(x)## for ##x>0## using differentiation under the integral sign.
Homework Equations: ##f(x)=\int_x^{2x} (\frac{e^{-t^2x}}{t}) \ dt ## for ##x>0##.

The strategy here would probably be to find a differential equation that ##f## satisfies, but differentiating with respect to ##x## using Leibniz rule yields

##f'=\int_x^{2x} (-te^{-t^2x}) \ dt + \frac{e^{-4x^3}-e^{-x^3}}{x}##
You're making this harder than it needs to be. Finding the derivative is a fairly straightforward application of the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus, one part of which says that
$$\frac d {dx}\int_a^x f(t) dt = f(x)$$
The problem is slightly more complicated in that the integral has functions of x in both of the limits of integration. In this case, you can break up the integral like so:
$$\int_x^{2x} f(t) dt = \int_x^a f(t)dt + \int_a^{2x}f(t)dt$$
schniefen said:
Continuing to differentiate will yield the integral term again (with ##t^3## instead of ##-t##) together with the derivative of the second term above. Is this the right strategy?

As a bonus question. Consider the function ##4t^2e^{-t^2}\cos{(2xt)}##. This is the second derivative w.r.t. ##x## of the function ##e^{-t^2}\cos{(2xt)}##. Now see the attached image. How does one find a function ##g(t)## that satisfies the inequality in the theorem stated in order to justify the differentiation under the integral sign? (##t## ranges from ##0## to ##\infty## and ##x\in\textbf{R}##)

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But breaking up the integral still yields

##f'=\int_x^{2x} (-te^{-t^2x}) \ dt + \frac{2e^{-4x^3}-e^{-x^3}}{x}##
, correct?
 
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There seems to be something strange with having an x as both a limit of integration as well as inside of the expression you are integrating.
 
schniefen said:
But breaking up the integral still yields

##f'=\int_x^{2x} (-te^{-t^2x}) \ dt + \frac{2e^{-4x^3}-e^{-x^3}}{x}##
, correct?
That's close to but not the same as what I'm getting. In the Liebniz rule, the integrand, f(x, t), is ##\frac{e^{-t^2x}} t##.
What is f(x, b(x))?
What is f(x, a(x))?
What is ##\frac{\partial}{\partial x}f(x, t)##?
In the above, f is different from what you're using to represent the integral.
 
Mark44 said:
That's close to but not the same as what I'm getting. In the Liebniz rule, the integrand, f(x, t), is ##\frac{e^{-t^2x}} t##.
What is f(x, b(x))?
What is f(x, a(x))?
What is ##\frac{\partial}{\partial x}f(x, t)##?
In the above, f is different from what you're using to represent the integral.
##f(x, b(x))=\frac{e^{-4x^3}}{2x}## (the ##2## in the denominator is eliminated in the Leibniz rule since ##b'(x)=2##
##f(x,a(x))=\frac{e^{-x^3}}{x}##
##\frac{\partial}{\partial x}f(x, t)=(-te^{-t^2x}) ##
 
schniefen said:
But breaking up the integral still yields

##f'=\int_x^{2x} (-te^{-t^2x}) \ dt + \frac{2e^{-4x^3}-e^{-x^3}}{x}##
, correct?
Wouldn't it be ##f'=\int_x^{2x} (-te^{-t^2x}) \ dt + \frac{e^{-4x^3}-e^{-x^3}}{x}##?
IOW, shouldn't the coefficient of the ##e^{-4x^3}## be 1 instead of 2?
 
Correct!
 
Mark44 said:
Wouldn't it be ##f'=\int_x^{2x} (-te^{-t^2x}) \ dt + \frac{e^{-4x^3}-e^{-x^3}}{x}##?
IOW, shouldn't the coefficient of the ##e^{-4x^3}## be 1 instead of 2?
Where would one go from here?
 
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The integral can be evaluated, treating x in the integrand as if it were constant. The substitution u(t) = -t^2x, give du = -2txdt. Find a "t" antiderivative of the integrand, and then evaluate it at the two limits of integration. Once this is done, maybe you can say something about f, due to f' being zero, or positive, or negative.
 
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Using u-substitution and adding the other terms to the evaluated integral,

##f'(x)= \frac{3e^{-4x^3}-3e^{-x^3}}{2x}##
The range should be ##(0,\ln{(2)})##. The expression seems kind of challenging to integrate.
 

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