What Is the Basic Difference Between VVD and VFD in Industrial Applications?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the differences between Variable Voltage Drives (VVD) and Variable Frequency Drives (VFD) in industrial applications. Participants explore the theoretical and practical aspects of each drive type, including their respective functionalities and limitations in speed control.

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Main Points Raised

  • Shahvir seeks clarification on the basic differences between VVD and VFD, questioning why VFDs cannot be used for all speed control applications.
  • Kerry suggests that VFDs are primarily for AC motors, while VVDs may be used for DC motors, where speed is proportional to voltage rather than frequency.
  • Some participants note that varying voltage alone for AC motors allows limited speed control and is often used for soft starting, while varying both voltage and frequency is more effective for maintaining torque across a range of speeds.
  • One participant mentions that varying voltage can help control torque, which may be beneficial in assembly line systems.
  • Another participant provides an example of using voltage variation to control the speed of a fan, highlighting the relationship between torque and speed in this context.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the applications and effectiveness of VVDs versus VFDs, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a consensus on the superiority of one over the other.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the specific industrial applications where VVDs may be preferred over VFDs, as well as the conditions under which each drive type is most effective.

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Hi all, :smile:

Can someone please tell me the basic difference between a Variable Voltage Drive (VVD) and a Variable Frequency Drive (VFD) in terms of industrial applications. Why can't VFD be used for all speed control applications or the likes in general?... i.e., why a requirement of a VVD?

Also, please ennumerate the industrial applications in which a VVD is preferred over a VFD and why.

Thanx & regards,
Shahvir
 
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I have no lots of info. but searching the net i found this link which explains VFD.

http://www.joliettech.com/what_is_a_variable_frequency_drive.htm"
 
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Dear Mustafa,

Thanx for the link. I'm aware of the basic operation of a VFD, but then what is difference between VFD & VVD...as theoretically both carry out function of speed control.

Regards,
Shahvir
 
VFD is for driving AC motors. VVD (although I'm not familiar with this term) sounds like it is for driving DC motors, where the speed of the motor is roughly proportional to the voltage rather than being dependent on the frequency.

-Kerry
 
KLoux said:
VFD is for driving AC motors. VVD (although I'm not familiar with this term) sounds like it is for driving DC motors, where the speed of the motor is roughly proportional to the voltage rather than being dependent on the frequency.

-Kerry


Thanx, Variable Voltage Drives (VVDs) are also used for speed control of AC motors, but I'm unsure of it's industrial application.
 
Hi b.shahvir. When you vary just the voltage to an AC motor (induction motor) you can only control the speed to a very limited extent. AC motors are relatively constant speed devices at any given excitation frequency. When you reduce the voltage on an AC motor you reduce the excitation and as a result the slip will increase a little. This mean the motor will slow a little, but not very much. Also the amount to which you can control the speed in this manner is greatest for inefficient motors with high rotor resistance and least for efficient motors with low rotor resistance. Variable voltage drives are often only used for soft starting.

If you are able to vary both voltage and frequency then it's a much more desirable situation. By keeping voltage in approximate proportion to frequency you can maintain full excitation (and hence full torque) over a wide range of speeds.
 
uart said:
Hi b.shahvir. When you vary just the voltage to an AC motor (induction motor) you can only control the speed to a very limited extent. AC motors are relatively constant speed devices at any given excitation frequency. When you reduce the voltage on an AC motor you reduce the excitation and as a result the slip will increase a little. This mean the motor will slow a little, but not very much. Also the amount to which you can control the speed in this manner is greatest for inefficient motors with high rotor resistance and least for efficient motors with low rotor resistance. Variable voltage drives are often only used for soft starting.

If you are able to vary both voltage and frequency then it's a much more desirable situation. By keeping voltage in approximate proportion to frequency you can maintain full excitation (and hence full torque) over a wide range of speeds.


Thanx. I think this is a more technically relevant reply! However any special industrial applications where VVDs gain prominance over VFDs?

Regards,
Shahvir
 
uart said:
Hi b.shahvir. When you vary just the voltage to an AC motor (induction motor) you can only control the speed to a very limited extent. AC motors are relatively constant speed devices at any given excitation frequency.
Varying the voltage can be a way to control the torque. I believe this is useful when needing to limit it to couple one machine to another in an assembly line type of system.
 
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Varying the voltage is also a way of controlling speed where the load increases with speed.

A good example of this is a fan. It starts readily, because it has no wind resistance to start with, but wind resistance builds up with speed.

So,the more torque the motor has, the faster it will run. So, you can vary the supply voltage (usually with a reactance in series with the fan) and hence control the speed of the fan.
 

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