What is the Beam Support Force Question?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a homework problem involving a beam with forces applied at specific points, requiring participants to determine the support forces at two points along the beam. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and technical explanations related to equilibrium equations.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • The original poster describes the setup of the beam and the forces acting on it, including a specific unknown force P that needs to be solved.
  • Some participants suggest writing all equations of equilibrium, emphasizing that both the sum of forces and the sum of moments must equal zero to find the correct values for the support forces RA and RB.
  • The original poster mentions having checked a solutions manual and finding their answer to be correct, despite initial doubts about its validity.
  • Other participants comment on the utility of solutions manuals, with one noting that they are not always helpful but can provide reassurance when answers seem uncertain.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no clear consensus on the approach to solving the problem, as some participants focus on the need for comprehensive equilibrium equations while the original poster expresses uncertainty despite finding a solution in a manual.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not fully resolve the mathematical steps involved in determining the support forces, and assumptions regarding the application of equilibrium equations are not explicitly stated.

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Homework Statement


Ok so I have a beam with the forces shown below. There is a 3 m span between the supports (A&B) and both of the supports are 1.5 m from the end of the beam. The 60 lb force is .75 meters left of support A and .75 m from the left end of the beam. P is an unknown force which I must solve for at the right end of the beam. I am allowed 33.75 lb on the left support and 93.75 lb on the right (this came from a stress equation I'm pretty confident those numbers are right).


Homework Equations



No real relevant equations except moment and force.



The Attempt at a Solution


So the force at A should be described by the moment around B divided by the distance from B to A. Thus giving a beam where the moment forces are zero.

FA=(P*1.5-60*3.75)/3

Then force B can be related to A because the forces in the y direction must be zero or the beam would move

Thus FB=(60+P)-FA or FB=(60+P)-(P*1.5-60*3.75)/3

I've tried plugging in the maximum forces for both but I can't seem to get an answer that works for both supports.

If you guys could help me or even steer me in the right direction that would be great.
 

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You've got to write all of the equations of equilibrium in order to obtain correct solutions for RA and RB. That means the sum of the forces = 0 and the sum of the moments = 0.
As the problem is stated, you have three unknowns (P, RA, and RB) and have shown only one moment equation (sort of).
 
I actually just looked at a solutions manual. I got the answer right from what I had. It just didn't seem right to me for some reason.
 
If only Life came with a solutions manual.
 
They're not always useful. Sometimes though, it's nice to know what you got was right.
 

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