What is the best way to learn logic of computer language?

[yungman]

Hi

I want to give an introduction of programming to my grand daughter who's going to college next year. She never learn any language. I want to play with Audino Kit with her. It's mostly C++. But it's too difficult for her to learn as first language and she doesn't have time as she's still very busy in school.

I remember when I was in Hong Kong, I learn about conditional statement like "If-Then-Else-Elseif", "While(...) do (...)", "Case(......)" etc type of things in a class called LOGIC. It also has AND, OR etc. It's a lot easier to learn without worrying about the Syntax, Class, Function and all that. Just want to teach her some basic logic, conditional statements.

I want to buy a book or go on line, my question is:

What is the name I should look for? Like I said, we called it "LOGIC" in HK 50yrs ago, it might be a totally different name now.

Thanks

 

[rcgldr]

You could use C++ for the same purpose, just use a small subset of the operators.

 

[jack action]

who's going to college next year. [...] It's mostly C++. But it's too difficult for her

I highly doubt that:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09M58P9PG/?tag=pfamazon01-20

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0988472627/?tag=pfamazon01-20​

 

[Mark44]

I remember when I was in Hong Kong, I learn about conditional statement like "If-Then-Else-Elseif", "While(...) do (...)", "Case(......)" etc type of things in a class called LOGIC. It also has AND, OR etc. It's a lot easier to learn without worrying about the Syntax, Class, Function and all that. Just want to teach her some basic logic, conditional statements.

Pretty much any programming language uses logic to determine which line of code should be executed next in conditional statements (like if - else blocks and switch blocks) or iterative statements (like for, while, and do while blocks).

C++ would be fine, as would python. You don't need to do anything with classes and object-oriented stuff.

 

[yungman]

Pretty much any programming language uses logic to determine which line of code should be executed next in conditional statements (like if - else blocks and switch blocks) or iterative statements (like for, while, and do while blocks).

C++ would be fine, as would python. You don't need to do anything with classes and object-oriented stuff.

My question is do I look for books on "LOGIC"? I really want to know the name, I know they have it, or else how would they teach in Hong Kong in 1967?

Thanks

 

[yungman]

I highly doubt that:

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09M58P9PG/?tag=pfamazon01-20

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/0988472627/?tag=pfamazon01-20​

I just worry she's too busy. She study very hard, hardly have time to learn more, I just want to introduce her to some logic so she can understand the examples in the Arduino kit I gave her.

 

[Mark44]

My question is do I look for books on "LOGIC"?

Don't look for books on logic. Pick a programming language and look for a book on that language. It should have a section that describes the comparison operators (<, <, <=, >=, ==, !=) and logical operators (&&, ||, !) and how logical expressions are used in conditional statements (if/else and switch/case) and iterative statements (for, while, do while).

 

[Tom.G]

You might look at the results from this search. This link confuses Physics Forums! You must copy the several lines of the link then paste it into the address field of your browser.

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q="Basic+Basic"+book&iflsig=AO6bgOgAAAAAZStt7m3f5t1AVKhjPuSCZJdbNUDAubFN&gbv=2&oq="Basic+Basic"+book&gs_l=heirloom-hp.3..0i22i30j0i650i390l4.6388.16072.0.25080.18.18.0.0.0.0.268.1940.12j5j1.18.0....0...1.1.34.heirloom-hp..1.17.1850.Be0fapajlqw

You may find a copy in your area using this link for a world-wide library search.
https://openlibrary.org/books/OL4546760M/Basic_BASIC

It is a beginners book on the BASIC computer language, which was the only language available in the mid to late 1970's for the new Personal Computers.

As I remember, it really started at the beginning for language development.

Cheers,
Tom

 

[Ibix]

https://www.google.com/search?q="Basic+Basic"+book

Fixed the link for you (the bbcode editor is less temperamental than the WYSIWYG one). You can also shorten Google links somewhat (you only really need the q= parameter), so I did that too.

 

[Svein]

Sorry, no computer language has any sort of logic built-in. What it has, is a way to describe how to do things. The "logic" must reside in the brain of the implementer. How to transform that logic into working code may depend on the tool chosen - you can write a huge application in assembly code, but you would not really want to do that. Creating a database query in LISP would be another example of mismatched tools.

 

[WWGD]

How about dropping by in Wikipedias entry on Boolean Logic and following the links?

 

[fluidistic]

I'd be surprised if your grand daughter doesn't have any experience with programming, and possibly knows more about programming than you do. We're ending 2023 and she's less than 1 year away from college. Certainly she has some experience already?

 

[Mark44]

Sorry, no computer language has any sort of logic built-in. What it has, is a way to describe how to do things. The "logic" must reside in the brain of the implementer.

The term "logic" is something of a misnomer here. I believe the OP, who is not a native speaker of English, really was asking about logical operations.

General purpose computer CPUs contain a chip or circuitry called the ALU or arithmetic logic unit. The section of this chip that deals with logic contains circuits for AND, OR, NOT, and other logical operators. Most computer languages provide capabilities to implement these operations.

 

[Vanadium 50]

I'd be surprised if your grand daughter doesn't have any experience with programming, and possibly knows more about programming than you do.

Don't poke the bear!

The term "logic" is something of a misnomer

When working with computers? You betcha!

I am reasonably sure that ALUs implement all the logical operators as NAND gates (can be done with NOR as well, but I think NAND is what is used).

For axample, NOT is NAND with the two inputs tiied tohether.

 

[jtbell]

I believe the OP, who is not a native speaker of English, really was asking about logical operations.

Here's what he wrote:

I learn about conditional statement like "If-Then-Else-Elseif", "While(...) do (...)", "Case(......)" etc type of things in a class called LOGIC.

That's more than just the logical (Boolean) operators AND, OR, NOT. They're implementations of the fundamental flow-control concepts of selection and iteration.

 

[Mark44]

That's more than just the logical (Boolean) operators AND, OR, NOT. They're implementations of the fundamental flow-control concepts of selection and iteration.

What I neglected to say was that he was interested in logical operators as they apply to conditional statements.