What is the best way to set up an alternator/battery system?

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The discussion revolves around setting up an alternator and battery system for a food truck, focusing on the feasibility of running an independent electrical system separate from the truck's own alternator. Participants explore various options for power generation, including high-capacity alternators, portable generators, and the use of batteries and inverters.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using a high-capacity alternator to run everything independently, while others express skepticism about the practicality of this approach.
  • Some participants propose that a portable generator might be a more efficient solution than relying on an idling engine, citing concerns about engine wear and local regulations against idling.
  • There is a discussion about the power requirements, with one participant stating a need for roughly 10 kW to run the kitchen, which raises questions about the feasibility of achieving this with alternators alone.
  • Several participants mention the potential for using propane generators, noting their quieter operation compared to traditional gas or diesel generators.
  • Concerns are raised about the safety of using portable generators inside or too close to the food truck due to CO and fire hazards.
  • Some participants express doubts about the ability to mount multiple high-capacity alternators and the associated costs, while others suggest exploring 48V systems or direct 220V output from alternators.
  • There is mention of the need for a specialist conversion company to handle complex setups, indicating that this is not a straightforward DIY project.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that using a portable generator may be more practical than relying solely on an alternator system. However, there is no consensus on the best approach, with multiple competing views on the use of generators, alternators, and battery systems remaining unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in the current discussion, such as the high power requirements (10 kW) and the challenges of mounting multiple alternators. There are also unresolved questions about the specific configurations and components needed for a successful setup.

  • #31
jack action said:
A generator is the combination of an internal combustion engine (ICE), an alternator and an electrical system to transform the current into something useful (voltage, for example). You need everything except the ICE. So if you can get the alternator and the electrical system from a generator that is known to work well and safely, all you have to do is connect this alternator to your truck engine while making sure the alternator will turn at the proper rpm. That's it. You don't have to customize your own system and wonder if you have the correct parts. The electrical system (alternator included) already works with the ICE, it will also work with the engine truck.

You may not have talked about a generator for the food truck, but others have mentioned it. I was just giving a real life example of a safety issue for anyone reading this thread and thinking it is a good idea.

It all depends on your needs. A quick search shows that the largest alternator for a truck is 320 A @ 12 V. That is 3840 W (= 12 X 320) of power. Is that enough power for your needs? You still need some electrical system to convert that current to something useful. I doubt you are using equipment working with 12 V direct current, which is the alternator output. If so, great, you only need to change the current truck alternator to a bigger one!

I wondering if that 12V 320AMP alternator you've mentioned, suitable for any truck, how do I find out that I can use some model with my truck?
 
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Motty said:
I wondering if that 12V 320AMP alternator you've mentioned, suitable for any truck, how do I find out that I can use some model with my truck?
It's a bit expensive (~$725 USD) -- I'm thinking about buying one for my 1985 4.8L inline-6 Chevy P30 Step-Van -- look up '6-phase versus 3-phase' if you're interested -- you might need a different regulator, too -- as others have pointed out, it may not be the best way to generate electricity -- I have a 3.5 kw gasoline-powered generator with a Honda engine (less loud than some others), but I think it's probably a good way to do it if you're going to use your truck's engine to do the side job of providing electricity -- https://www.droppinhzcaraudio.com/p...f-exciting-chrome-w-march-1-75-pulley-and-fan

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  • #33
sysprog said:
I'm thinking about buying one for my 1985 4.8L
That's an impressive alternator. You will also need a special 6 groove serpentine belt and a new crankshaft pulley to match. The description says that it is designed to work at 800 RPM idle speed.

I'm not a M.E., but I would guess that this must stretch the limits of pulley-belt power transmission with its small diameter, low RPM, and high power.
 
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anorlunda said:
That's an impressive alternator. You will also need a special 6 groove serpentine belt and a new crankshaft pulley to match. The description says that it is designed to work at 800 RPM idle speed.

I'm not a M.E., but I would guess that this must stretch the limits of pulley-belt power transmission with its small diameter, low RPM, and high power.
Yeah -- there's a lot that goes along with it -- but that engine can produce enough power -- you make some adjustments, and it'll work -- I'm looking at a 2-alternator option set as well . . .
 

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