What Is the Breakdown Voltage of the Capacitor Combination?

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The discussion revolves around determining the breakdown voltage of a combination of capacitors, each with a specified breakdown voltage of 15.0 V. The original poster presents their understanding of the circuit configuration and attempts to relate the voltages and capacitances involved.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the voltages across capacitors in parallel and series configurations, questioning how to set up the equations correctly. There are attempts to calculate the effective capacitance and the implications of charge distribution in the circuit.

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Some participants provide guidance on correcting the equations used to find the effective capacitance and suggest substituting values to explore the relationships further. There is acknowledgment of mistakes in the initial calculations, and a collaborative effort to clarify the approach is evident.

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Participants are working within the constraints of the problem as posed, with specific capacitor values and breakdown voltages provided. There is an emphasis on ensuring the correct application of circuit principles without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Question:

Each capacitor in the combination shown in Figure P26.49 has a breakdown voltage of 15.0 V. What is the breakdown voltage of the combination?

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I figured that the voltage on the two parallel capacitors on either side must be the same, so both can handle 15V. So I assumed that, since C = Q/V, the amount of charge to the central capacitor would be 3 X 10^-4, but since the whole thing is serial, we have: V = V_1 + V_2 + V_3. How should I go about setting this one up?
 
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What you need to do is work out the capacitance of the combination. What equations do you know that will relate the capacitance to the voltage equation you have written?
 
I can easily determine the entire capicitance of the whole system.
Let C_1 = 20 mu-F, C_2 = 10 mu-F, then
[tex]\frac{1}{C} = \frac{1}{2C_1} + \frac{1}{C_2} + \frac{1}{2C_1}[/tex]
or [tex]C = \frac{4 C_1 C_2}{4C_1 + 2}[/tex]

We also know the charge of the center capacitor if V = 15, and a serial circuit has all the same charge, so using the highest charge on the center capicitor and the above equation for the entire circuit,

[tex]V = \frac{Q}{C} = \frac{Q_c}{\frac{4 C_1 C_2}{4 C_1 + C_2}} = \frac{Q_c(4 C_1 + C2)}{4 C_1 C_2}[/tex]

that's not it - I plugged in the numbers and it's not correct.
 
Ok I think you have the right idea but you've made a couple of mistakes.

Firstly [tex]\frac{1}{C} = \frac{1}{2C_1} + \frac{1}{C_2} + \frac{1}{2C_1} = \frac{4C_1 + 2}{4 C_1 C_2}[/tex]

is not correct.

[tex]\frac{1}{C_{eff}} = \frac{1}{2C_1} + \frac{1}{C_2} + \frac{1}{2C_1} = \frac{1}{C_1} + \frac{1}{C_2}[/tex] that should get you started on getting the right fraction.

For the second part like I say you have the correct method. So for the middle capacitor which you have labelled C2, the charge it stores at maximum voltage is:

[tex]\Delta V_{max}=\frac{Q}{C_2}\Rightarrow Q = \Delta V_{max}C_2[/tex]

now substitute Q into the [tex]\Delta V_{max}=\frac{Q}{C_{eff}}[/tex] equation and see how you go from there.
 
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Yes! thanks ever much! :-)
 

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