What is the bright, changing light in the southwestern sky in France?

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The discussion revolves around identifying a bright, changing light observed in the southwestern sky from France. Participants explore various possibilities, including astronomical objects and potential man-made sources, while considering the characteristics of the light, such as its brightness and color changes.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the light is not a star due to its lack of twinkling and proposes it might be reflective light from solar panels.
  • Another participant proposes that the light could be the Dog star Sirius, noting its position relative to the constellation Orion and its characteristic sparkling colors.
  • A question is raised about whether the light moves in the sky over time, indicating that a stationary object would not be an astronomical body.
  • Several participants assert that the light is Venus, citing its prominence in the southwestern sky and its brightness compared to other celestial objects.
  • One participant expresses confusion about the term "geostationary," suggesting it might refer to a communication satellite, while others clarify that Venus can appear stationary relative to the stars due to its slow movement.
  • Another participant references the magnitude brightness scale, arguing that Venus is indeed the brightest object in the sky at that time, despite some misconceptions about its maximum elongation from the sun.
  • One participant notes that the apparent size of Venus is due to its brightness, contrasting it with Jupiter, which is larger but appears smaller due to its dimmer light.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is a general agreement among several participants that the light is likely Venus, but some uncertainty remains regarding the original poster's observations and the definition of "geostationary." The discussion includes competing views about the identity of the light, particularly the suggestion of Sirius.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of certainty about their claims, with some relying on astronomical definitions and others on personal observations. The discussion does not resolve the identity of the light definitively.

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at about 45 degrees as view from south western france , this isn't a star as it doesn't twinkle
its not a planet as it seems to be geo stationary, but is very bright and changes colours from blue / red white,, I'm sure this is just reflective light from solar panels,,,, but what is it ?
 
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Are you sure it isn't the Dog star Sirius? It would be positioned at about 30 degrees to the bottom right from the constellation Orion. It oftens sparkles with blue white/ red white colors.

Looking at about 45 degrees to the SW at say 9pm I see the constellation Aquarius but its stars don't seem as bright.

If you have a smart phone and the Distant Suns app or the StarMap Pro app then it might help you identify the mystery object. These apps use the built in GPS and display the sky in the direction your phone is facing.
 
Does it move in the sky over time? Or is it always in the same spot? If it's the latter, then it's not an astronomical object.
 
It's Venus.
re: "geostationary"... well, planets move very slowly against the stars, so you will not see it move in one night, other than from Earth's rotation - it will rise and set.
 
Yep, it's Venus. Venus is very prominent in the SW sky, it comes to it's highest in the sky and brightest this time of year.
 
tfr000 said:
It's Venus.
re: "geostationary"... well, planets move very slowly against the stars, so you will not see it move in one night, other than from Earth's rotation - it will rise and set.

I thought geostationary meant, "stays over the same coordinates", indicating perhaps, some type of communication satellite. Am I confused? :confused:
 
I think I have to go with the magnitude brightness scale venus being 4.9 sirius 1.9 as it is a pretty dam bright thing
its got to be venus even thru I always thought venus was never more than a 33 degree arc from the sun , 8 pm puts the sun well below the horizon and mystery venus still at a 45 to a fairly flat horizon ?!?
 
Venus's maximum elongation is about 45 degrees: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elongation_(astronomy )
 
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I thought geostationary meant, "stays over the same coordinates", indicating perhaps, some type of communication satellite. Am I confused?
No, you are correct. I think the original poster is seeing the object in roughly the same place at roughly the same time every night. I would bet that it sets later on.
Of course, a real, geostationary sat would stay in the same place and never move at any time of day.
 
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sorry this is setting ! its venus , isn't it big !
 
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willis hallis said:
sorry this is setting ! its venus , isn't it big !

Nope! It only looks big because of how bright it is. Jupiter has a much larger apparent size but appears smaller when viewed without magnification because it is dimmer than Venus at the moment.
 

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