What is the Change in Momentum of the Railcart in this Problem?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a railcart in motion with a person inside who throws a ball against the wall of the cart and then catches it. The task is to determine the change in momentum of the railcart as a result of this action.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the implications of throwing and catching the ball on the momentum of the railcart, questioning whether the person and ball are part of the system. There is consideration of the momentum before and after the ball is thrown and caught.

Discussion Status

The discussion is exploring different interpretations of the problem, with some participants suggesting that the change in momentum could be zero based on the system's closed nature. There is no explicit consensus yet, but some guidance has been offered regarding the assumptions involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants are grappling with the logistics of momentum change in a moving system and the implications of the ball returning to rest after being caught.

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Homework Statement



one of my homework problems

you are sitting in a railcart which is moving forward. In your hand is a ball...you throw the ball against the wall of the railcart, and it bounces off of the wall and you catch it...the ball has mass m and was thrown with velocity v...which of the following shows the change in momentum of the rail cart

a. 0 b. mv c. 2mv d. none of above

Homework Equations



mv + mv = mv + mv


The Attempt at a Solution



i was thinking the answer is b because if the ball bounces off, it had to have affected the rail cart with a value of mv ?
 
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sms14 said:

The Attempt at a Solution



i was thinking the answer is b because if the ball bounces off, it had to have affected the rail cart with a value of mv ?


Was there any change in momentum when you threw the ball? What about when you catch the ball? You are part of the system aren't you?
 
well, i assume I'm part of the system...and i guess the final momentum of the ball is 0 since i caught it??..i just am having trouble understanding the problem and the logistics of it
 
actually...now that i think about it..i think the answer is 0 because if the person and ball are located within the railcart, then ultimately...if the ball was thrown and returns at rest...there was no momentum change so the change in momentum of the railcart must be zero.
 
can anyone verify if I am thinking along the right track?
 
sms14 said:
actually...now that i think about it..i think the answer is 0 because if the person and ball are located within the railcart, then ultimately...if the ball was thrown and returns at rest...there was no momentum change so the change in momentum of the railcart must be zero.

10/10 :biggrin:
 
sms14 said:
actually...now that i think about it..i think the answer is 0 because if the person and ball are located within the railcart, then ultimately...if the ball was thrown and returns at rest...there was no momentum change so the change in momentum of the railcart must be zero.

Good job. You didn't get derailed. You are on the right track now.
 

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