What is the chemical name for C9H20O9Cl ?

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The discussion revolves around identifying the chemical name for the compound with the formula C9H20O9Cl. Participants explore the structural implications of the formula, including the types of bonds and functional groups that may be present.

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  • One participant requests assistance in naming the compound C9H20O9Cl.
  • Another participant provides a link to nomenclature rules, suggesting that naming requires a bond scheme representation.
  • A different participant discusses the implications of the molecular formula, noting the ratio of oxygen to carbon and the presence of chlorine, and questions the feasibility of such a compound existing.
  • This participant argues that if the compound were fully saturated, it would correspond to nonane or its isomers, and that the presence of nine oxygens would necessitate each being an alcohol, leading to instability with geminal diols.
  • The same participant concludes that the compound, as described, may not be possible due to the structural constraints implied by its formula.

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Participants express differing views on the feasibility of the compound C9H20O9Cl, with some questioning its existence based on structural reasoning while others focus on the naming aspect without reaching a consensus.

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The discussion highlights limitations related to the assumptions about bonding structures and the stability of potential functional groups within the compound.

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I am trying to find out it's name.Please help me
I am trying to find out it's name.Please help me
 
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You can only name organic compounds after proposing a bond scheme (representation) of atoms (usually projected on a plane). So what is the bond structure of ##C_9 H_{20} O_9 Cl##?
 
C9H20O9Cl
Ratio of one oxygen per carbon and an additional Cl! If it were fully saturated aliphatic… C9H20 would be nonane or an isomer. No cyclics. No double bonds. Add 9 oxygens and they would all need to be alcohols. Geminal diols are very unstable so that would be one alcohol per carbon. That leaves one chlorine which can only occur in this compound if it replaces a hydrogen somewhere… so not H20 but H19.

I don’t think this compound is possible.
 
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