What is the coefficient of kinetic friction for the incline?

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The discussion revolves around determining the coefficient of kinetic friction for a block sliding down an inclined plane. The block has a mass of 12 kg and is released from rest on an incline with an angle of 35 degrees, experiencing an acceleration of 1.23457 m/s².

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of forces acting on the block, including the normal force and gravitational force. There are attempts to relate net force to friction and gravitational components, with some questioning the accuracy of their calculations and assumptions.

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A 12kg block is released from rest on an inclined plane with angle 35. Acceleration of the block is 1.23457 The acceleration of gravity is 9.8m/2^2.

What is the coefficient of kinetic friction for the incline?


I found the normal force (12*9.8*cos35)=96.33228
Fnet=ma=12*1.23457=14.81484
Ff=N-Fnet=81.51744
So, I thought mu=Fnet/N=0.8462, but that answer is apparently wrong. Any ideas?
 
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missyjane said:
A 12kg block is released from rest on an inclined plane with angle 35. Acceleration of the block is 1.23457 The acceleration of gravity is 9.8m/2^2.

What is the coefficient of kinetic friction for the incline?


I found the normal force (12*9.8*cos35)=96.33228
Fnet=ma=12*1.23457=14.81484
Ff=N-Fnet=81.51744
So, I thought mu=Fnet/N=0.8462, but that answer is apparently wrong. Any ideas?

F_f+F_g+N=m\vec{a}

You know that the mass is 12kg, the and the acceleration 1.23457 m/s2. You know that the product of those two is equal to the frictional force + the downward force. The downward force is the sum of the gravitational force and the normal force. Make a few substitutions and you should have your answer.

Alex
 
Ok, so gravitational force is 9.8*12, right? That would be 117.6N. So the downward force is 117.6+96.33228=213.93228. But that means ma does not equal the product of the two. Where am I messing up?
 
missyjane said:
Ok, so gravitational force is 9.8*12, right? That would be 117.6N. So the downward force is 117.6+96.33228=213.93228. But that means ma does not equal the product of the two. Where am I messing up?
This will be much easier for you if you write it out with vectors. For this type of problem, try the following:

1. Draw a free-body diagram.
2. Write Newton's Second Law in vector form (important!).
3. Write an expression for each of the forces.
4. Write a scalar equation for each.
5. Express any constraints on your equations.
6. Solve the final system(s) of equations.
 

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