What is the coefficient of static friction between the bag and the carousel?

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The problem involves a luggage carousel at an airport, which is modeled as a section of a cone rotating about its vertical axis. The scenario includes calculating the force of static friction on a piece of luggage placed on the carousel, as well as determining the coefficient of static friction when the carousel's rotation rate changes.

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  • Participants discuss the application of Newton's laws and circular motion principles to analyze the forces acting on the luggage. There are attempts to derive equations for the forces involved, with some questioning the correctness of the original poster's calculations and assumptions.

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Some participants have provided feedback on the original poster's calculations, suggesting that intermediate steps should be shown for clarity. There is recognition of errors in the original work, and a participant expresses understanding after receiving guidance. However, no consensus on the final solution has been reached.

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Homework Statement


(a) A luggage carousel at an airport has the form of a section of a large cone, steadily rotating about its vertical axis. Its metallic surface slopes downward toward the outside, making an angle of 18.0° with the horizontal. A piece of luggage having mass 30.0 kg is placed on the carousel at a position 7.46 m measured horizontally from the axis of rotation. The travel bag goes around once in 41.5 s. Calculate the force of static friction exerted by the carousel on the bag.

(b) The drive motor is shifted to turn the carousel at a higher constant rate of rotation, and the piece of luggage is bumped to another position, 7.94 m from the axis of rotation. Now going around once in every 30.8 s, the bag is on the verge of slipping down the sloped surface. Calculate the coefficient of static friction between the bag and the carousel.



Homework Equations


F = (m(v^2))/r
F=force
m=mass
v=velocity
r=radius

F=(v^2)/r


The Attempt at a Solution



A) mgsin(theta) = 294sin(18.5) + 5 = 96 (not correct but close enough to be considered correct)

B)
Value is within 10% of .39 but wants 4 decimal places.

However I know the following that I've done.

Using laws of circular motion, a=v^2 / r

r is given at 7.94

you can find v:

v = distance/time = 2pi r / 38

So it should be .3304?
 
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We could more easily spot your errors if you showed your intermediate work. For part A, you have mgsintheta =mgsintheta + 5, which doesn't make sense. Show how you are applying Newton's laws.
 
[F – mg sin 18]cos 18 = (mv^2)/r = 30x[(2xpix7.94)/38]^2/7.94
 
SpecialOps0 said:
[F – mg sin 18]cos 18 = (mv^2)/r = 30x[(2xpix7.94)/38]^2/7.94
You are tossing out numbers without showing how you arrived at them, making it difficult to see what you are doing. Go step by step. Look in the y (vertical) direction and sum all forces in the y direction = 0, per Newton 1. Then look in the x direction (the horizontal direction) and sum all forces in the x direction = mv^2/r, per Newton 2. Draw a free body diagram.
 
Got it, thanks and I did have an error in my work. I wrote it down to make sure instead of doing it all on the calculator and forgot to change a degree.
 

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