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The discussion revolves around a circuit involving two ideal DC power supplies in parallel with a load resistor, focusing on the current that will pass through the resistor given the supplies' voltages. Participants are exploring the implications of assuming zero internal resistance for the power supplies.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants are attempting to determine the current through the resistor based on the voltages of the power supplies. Questions arise regarding the relevance of internal resistance and the implications of having two different voltage supplies in parallel.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the nature of ideal versus non-ideal power supplies. Some guidance has been offered regarding the characteristics of batteries in parallel, but there is no explicit consensus on the final interpretation of the current through the resistor.

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There is mention of the limitations of ideal assumptions in circuit analysis, and participants are encouraged to consider practical experimentation to deepen their understanding. The original poster expresses a desire for clarification on their reasoning regarding voltage and current relationships.

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You can't divide by 0
 
algis.j said:
You can't divide by 0
Although true, totally irrelevant.
 
I am guessing (since the image won't load) that you've got two different supplies in parallel with a load resistor?

Essentially you cannot have r=0 exactly... you'd have to take a limiting case which is highly dependent on the details of the power supplies. Examples include known r, limited current, perhaps the supplies cannot sink current etc...

Once you have the non-ideal characteristics of the supplies specified it is reasonably easy to determine the result.
 
As I understand this, R is not 0; r(internal) is zero and you can do the ideal case without too much worry.

So, what do you know about currents at a junction?
 
i want to know the current in R.
r is the internal resistance of the batteries, which i have assumed to be zero.
 
It is just two cells (power supplies) in parallel to a resistor of value R

The talk about little r confuses things, so just say in the ideal case. Since this is intro physics and a very basic circuit.

Two cells in series (say 2x1.5V, 500mAh types) gives you what current and what voltage if acting as a battery ?
Two cells in parallel (say 2x1.5V, 500mAh types) gives you what current and what voltage if acting as a battery ?

If you cannot answer this basic question, then I suggest picking your the first topic that pops up in google for say 'cells in parallel' and have a read

http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-24.htm
 
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ah.. thanks for your answer. .. i m in the process of learning basics only.
In the parallel combination there, both the voltages are same, i.e. 1.2V, so the potential difference is 1.2 V. But if suppose one battery is 1.2 V and other is 1.5 V, then what is the potential difference we should say finally.
The way i have understood is that (1.2 V and 1.5 V ); 1.2 V is a lower voltage, so we will take it will just give low run time, and the final voltage across will be 1.5 V only.

So, for the question that i asked...the current i = max (V1, V2)/R.
If there is something wrong in my understanding, can u please correct me if possible.
thx again
 
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If you really want to learn, go and do it...

Get yourself some batteries (not mians power supplies), a couple of resistor and voltmeter and ammeter.
Have a play and see what you get.

That should answer your question...
 
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i wish i had that facility with me to experiment. Can you just tell me if i m thinking in the right direction?
 
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i_island0 said:
i wish i had that facility with me to experiment. Can you just tell me if i m thinking in the right direction?

i_island0 said:
So, for the question that i asked...the current i = max (V1, V2)/R.
Sounds good to me :approve:
 

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