What Is the Correct Acceleration When an Object Stops Suddenly?

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The problem involves an object that is initially traveling at a constant speed of 100 km/hr (27.8 m/s) and comes to a stop over a distance of 0.75 m. The main question is to determine the object's acceleration during this stopping process.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of time taken to stop and question the assumption of constant velocity over the stopping distance. There are attempts to clarify the relationship between distance, velocity, and time, particularly regarding the average velocity during deceleration.

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The discussion is exploring various interpretations of the average velocity and its calculation during deceleration. Some participants have provided clarifications on the assumptions made regarding constant acceleration, while others are questioning the validity of these assumptions in different scenarios.

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Participants are considering the implications of constant versus changing acceleration on the calculations and the definitions of variables such as distance and average velocity. There is an acknowledgment that the method of calculating average velocity may not hold if acceleration varies during the stopping distance.

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Homework Statement



An object traveling at a constant 100km/hr (27.8 m/s) stops in 0.75m

Homework Equations



What was the object's acceleration?

The Attempt at a Solution



[itex]a = \frac{\Delta v}{\Delta t}[/itex]

[itex]\Delta t = \frac{0.75 m}{27.8 m/s} = 0.027 s[/itex]

[itex]a = \frac{0-27.8 m/s}{0.027 - 0 s} = -1029.63 m/s^2[/itex]

The textbook answer is -500 m/s^2. I'm confused :(
 
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[itex]\Delta t = \frac{0.75 m}{27.8 m/s} = 0.027 s[/itex]

Your problem is with this line. It would be appropriate if velocity was constant over that distance, but it is not.
 
When you calculate your Δt, the velocity is not constant over the time interval. Thus [itex]d \neq \Delta v\; \Delta t[/itex]. Rather, the average velocity will be Δv/2, so that
[tex]d = \frac{\Delta v}{2} \Delta t[/tex]
[tex]\Delta t = \frac{2 d}{\Delta v}[/tex]
 
gneill said:
When you calculate your Δt, the velocity is not constant over the time interval. Thus [itex]d \neq \Delta v\; \Delta t[/itex]. Rather, the average velocity will be Δv/2, so that
[tex]d = \frac{\Delta v}{2} \Delta t[/tex]
[tex]\Delta t = \frac{2 d}{\Delta v}[/tex]

Why is the average velocity Δv/2? What does "d" represent?

Thanks for your help!
 
Nat3 said:
Why is the average velocity Δv/2? What does "d" represent?

Thanks for your help!

d is the distance traveled (you can call it Δx if you wish). The initial velocity is v, the final velocity is zero. So the Δv is (v - 0). The average is (v + 0)/2, or Δv/2.
 
gneill said:
The average is (v + 0)/2, or Δv/2.

Is this average really accurate? For example, if a car drives at 10 m/s for 10 minutes, then slows to a stop in one second, is the average speed really going to be (0+10)/2 ?
 
Nat3 said:
Is this average really accurate? For example, if a car drives at 10 m/s for 10 minutes, then slows to a stop in one second, is the average speed really going to be (0-10)/2 ?

It is for the period of the deceleration; the rest of the trip is not being considered :smile:

And it's (10 + 0)/2 in this case.
 
gneill said:
It is for the period of the deceleration; the rest of the trip is not being considered :smile:

And it's (10 + 0)/2 in this case.

So this works because we assume the acceleration (deceleration) during the .75m the object is slowing down is constant? If the acceleration changed during that time, then your method of calculating the average velocity would not be accurate?

Thanks :)
 
Nat3 said:
So this works because we assume the acceleration (deceleration) during the .75m the object is slowing down is constant? If the acceleration changed during that time, then your method of calculating the average velocity would not be accurate?

Thanks :)

Correct.
 

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