What Is the Correct Derivative of f(x) = 4^x + e^(2tanx) at x=0?

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The discussion revolves around finding the derivative of the function f(x) = 4^x + e^(2tanx) at the point x=0. Participants are exploring the application of logarithmic differentiation in this context.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the use of logarithmic differentiation and the implications of differentiating the function. There are attempts to clarify the difference between evaluating the derivative as a function versus at a specific point. Some participants question the validity of applying logarithmic properties in the original poster's work.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on the correct application of logarithmic differentiation and addressing misconceptions about logarithmic properties. There is recognition of errors in the original approach, but no consensus on the correct derivative has been reached yet.

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Some participants note the importance of correctly applying logarithmic rules, particularly the distinction between the logarithm of a sum versus the logarithm of a product. There is also mention of the original poster's prior calculus experience, which adds context to their current misunderstanding.

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Derivative of exponential function

Homework Statement



f(x) = 4^x + e^(2tanx)

find f'(0)

Homework Equations



I used log differentiation.

y = 4^x + e^(2tanx)

lny = xln4 + 2tanx(lne) = xln4 + 2tanx

The Attempt at a Solution



y'/y = ln4 + 2sec^2(x)

Solving for y I get y = 2.

Plugging in x = 0 I get:

y'/2 = ln4 +2sec^(0) = ln4 + 2(1)

y' = 2(ln4+2)

This however, isn't the answer.
 
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Qube said:

Homework Statement



f(x) = 4^x + e^(2tanx)

find f'(0)

Homework Equations



I used log differentiation.

y = 4^x + e^(2tanx)

lny = xln4 + 2tanx(lne) = xln4 + 2tanx

The Attempt at a Solution



y'/y = ln4 + 2sec^2(x)

Solving for y I get y = 2.
No - don't do this yet. Solve for y' algebraically.

There's a difference between y' and y'(0). The first is a function, and the second is a number. Your need the function.
Qube said:
Plugging in x = 0 I get:

y'/2 = ln4 +2sec^(0) = ln4 + 2(1)

y' = 2(ln4+2)

This however, isn't the answer.
 
Btw, your title is misleading. 4x is NOT a power function. It's an exponential function.

In a power function, the variable is in the base, and the exponent is constant. E.g., x3, y5, and so on are power functions.
 
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Mark44 said:
No - don't do this yet. Solve for y' algebraically.

There's a difference between y' and y'(0). The first is a function, and the second is a number. Your need the function.

Alright.

y' = y(ln4 + 2sec^2(x))

How do I proceed? Do I plug in y =2? If so I still get the same answer if I plug in x = 0.
 
Qube said:

Homework Statement



f(x) = 4^x + e^(2tanx)

find f'(0)

Homework Equations



I used log differentiation.

y = 4^x + e^(2tanx)

lny = xln4 + 2tanx(lne) = xln4 + 2tanx

This step in incorrect. ##\ln(a+b) \ne \ln a + \ln b##.
 
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I got it now! Thanks! I should probably review my log rules. It's amazing that after two years of calculus and a 5 on both AP Calc AB and BC I still make the simplest of pre-calculus mistakes!
 
Qube said:

Homework Statement



f(x) = 4^x + e^(2tanx)

find f'(0)

Homework Equations



I used log differentiation.

y = 4^x + e^(2tanx)

lny = xln4 + 2tanx(lne) = xln4 + 2tanx

The Attempt at a Solution



y'/y = ln4 + 2sec^2(x)

Solving for y I get y = 2.

Plugging in x = 0 I get:

y'/2 = ln4 +2sec^(0) = ln4 + 2(1)

y' = 2(ln4+2)

This however, isn't the answer.

Your second line essentially says that
\log(a+b) = \log(a) + \log(b)\;\leftarrow \text{ false!}
What IS true is ## \log(a\cdot b) = \log(a) + \log(b)##.
 
LCKurtz said:
This step in incorrect. ##\ln(a+b) \ne \ln a + \ln b##.
I glossed right over that in the OP's work. Oh, well.
 

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