What is the Correct Free Body Diagram for a Pulley System?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a problem involving a pulley system with suspended blocks, where participants are tasked with drawing free-body diagrams (FBDs) for different components of the system. The context includes considerations of forces such as tension and weight.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the interpretation of the problem statement, questioning whether it asks for FBDs of the pulley or the weights. There are attempts to clarify the correct components to include in the diagrams, with some expressing confusion over the feedback received on their attempts.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on the problem requirements and expressing uncertainty about their previous attempts. Some guidance is offered regarding the need to focus on the correct components for the FBDs, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem statement does not explicitly specify whether to draw the FBD for the pulley or the weights, leading to differing interpretations. Additionally, there is mention of the constraints of an online assignment format, which limits immediate feedback from teachers.

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Homework Statement



In the figure (Figure 1) each of the suspended blocks has weight w. The pulleys are frictionless and the ropes have negligible weight.

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Homework Equations



w = mg
Forces cancel out, so Tension = weight (since they are suspended)

The Attempt at a Solution



For a (pulley) ), I tried a free-body diagram with mg pointing down, and tension pointing up, with equal magnitude. This was marked wrong, but I don't see any other forces acting on the weight.

For b (either weight) ), I did the same thing as I did in a, because, after all, isn't it just mg and tension that act on both weights?

For c (either weight) ), same as a and b.
 
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Exactly what does the problem ask? To draw a free body diagram of the pulley? If so then why did you draw FBDs of the weights?
 
Nathanael said:
Exactly what does the problem ask? To draw a free body diagram of the pulley? If so then why did you draw FBDs of the weights?

For part A, it's of the pulley system. B and C ask you to draw for one of the weights.
 
Did you get B and C right? For A you described an FBD for the weight, not the pulley.
 
Nathanael said:
Did you get B and C right? For A you described an FBD for the weight, not the pulley.

No, B and C are wrong as well :( That's why I don't understand, I would have thought it would just be tension and mg...
 
Your teacher didn't explain why you got it wrong? I would ask him/her why you got B and C wrong. Do you know why you get A wrong?

Do you have the exact problem statement?
 
Nathanael said:
Your teacher didn't explain why you got it wrong? I would ask him/her why you got B and C wrong. Do you know why you get A wrong?

Do you have the exact problem statement?

That is the exact problem statement. :(
In the figure (Figure 1) each of the suspended blocks has weight w. The pulleys are frictionless and the ropes have negligible weight.

In the case (a), draw the free-body diagram.
In the case (b), draw the free-body diagram of one of the blocks.
In the case (c), draw the free-body diagram of one of the blocks.

Word for word.

And this is one of those online assignments. I can't get any teacher feedback until the week begins.

The problem itself doesn't say whether it's wanting the pulley or the weight. But given that I've tried tension up, mg down, and that's incorrect, and I believe that to be the correct FBD for a suspended weight, I'm led to believe that it's asking for the pulley system...
 

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