What is the cross ratio of points on a sphere?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of the cross ratio of points on a sphere, specifically in the context of complex numbers and stereographic projection. The original poster expresses difficulty in understanding the geometric aspects involved and seeks clarification on how to derive the cross ratio related to angular distance on the sphere.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to connect the angular distance between points on the sphere to the cross ratio of their corresponding complex representations. They question how to approach the problem without evaluating all permutations of the points. Other participants suggest considering the projection point and its implications for the arrangement of points.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the positioning of points for simplification, but there is no explicit consensus on the approach to take.

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The original poster notes a lack of familiarity with geometry and expresses uncertainty about the relationship between the points and their projections. There is also mention of the complexity of working in the complex plane compared to the sphere.

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Hi all,

I wasn't sure whether to ask this here or not, but I've tried to make progress and so far had no such luck. I've not managed to make any headway on this so far, I don't think I can quite get my head around the geometry that's in play.

If u,v[itex]\in \mathbb{C}[/itex] correspond to points P, Q on [itex]S^2[/itex], and d denotes the angular distance from P to Q on [itex]S^2[/itex], show that [itex]-\tan^2(\frac{d}{2})[/itex] is the cross ratio of the points [itex]u, v, \frac{-1}{u^*}, \frac{-1}{v^*}[/itex], taken in an appropriate order (which you should specify). (The star denotes complex conjugation - I'm not sure how to do the 'bar' in latex!)

Now I'm useless at geometry, but if I recall correctly, [itex]\frac{-1}{u^*}[/itex] would correspond to the stereographic projection of the point (-P), right? And likewise with v - other than that however, I really can't see a smart way to do this. I certainly don't want to try all 6 permutations of the 4 points and see what pops up on the cross ratio, but at the same time I can't see intuitively where the [itex]-\tan^2(\frac{d}{2})[/itex] could have come from in order to try and work out how to take the cross ratio to get the desired result. I'm aware that the angle between the 2 points P and Q is equal to d, but I can't seem to work anything out in the complex plane rather than the sphere. Please help!

Many thanks in advance.
 
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Hi Mathmos6! :smile:

If you choose your projection point at the midpoint of PQ, then the four projected points are in a line at distances ±tan(d/4) and ±1/tan(d/4) from the origin. :wink:
 
Thanks so much, i didn't appreciate that the cross ratio is invariable under rotation so you can just place the points in a more convenient position and work it out that way. Have a good day!
 

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