What Is the Current in Seawater Under a Vertical B-Field?

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The problem involves the induced current in seawater moving through a vertical magnetic field, specifically referencing a scenario from Purcell's textbook. The parameters include the speed of seawater, the strength of the magnetic field, and the conductivity of seawater.

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the induced electric field and current using the relationship between velocity, magnetic field, and conductivity. Questions arise regarding the nature of induced electric fields and the implications of the water's containment in a bottle versus a larger body of water.

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Participants are exploring the implications of current flow in different scenarios, particularly questioning the necessity of a return path for the current. Some suggest that in a large body of water, the current could return through various pathways, while in a bottle, the lack of a return path raises concerns.

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Participants are considering the constraints of the problem, including the physical setup of the water (bottle vs. ocean) and the assumptions about current flow and circuit completion.

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This is Purcell 7.12. Seawater moves at 1 meter/second, there is a vertical B-field of .35 gauss, and the conductivity of water is .04 (1/ohm*cm). What is the current in Amps/meter/meter? If you moved water in a bottle at this speed, would there be a current induced?


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I used E=(v/c)B since I know that the induced electric field comes from velocity and B-field which are perpendicular to one another... can you talk of induced electric fields like this?

Then I get E=(35/c) esu/cm^2. J=σE, so J=42.4 esu/sec/cm^2. This converts to 1.4e-4 Amps/m^2. Is that the right number?

I'm not sure how to answer the second part... why would it matter is the water is in a bottle or in a large body of water? All that matters it the conductivity and relative motion, so the current would flow, yes?
 
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NullSpace0 said:
why would it matter is the water is in a bottle or in a large body of water? All that matters it the conductivity and relative motion, so the current would flow, yes?
A current requires a circuit. Where's the return path in each case?
 
Presumably the current in the ocean would return at some point on the surface of the water or maybe below the surface of the water?

I guess for a bottle of water there would be no path for the current to return on, though.
 
NullSpace0 said:
Presumably the current in the ocean would return at some point on the surface of the water or maybe below the surface of the water?
Or even through the ocean floor.
 

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