What is the current through the emf in a circuit with capacitors and resistors?

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The discussion revolves around a circuit problem involving capacitors and resistors, specifically focusing on calculating the current through an electromotive force (emf) and analyzing voltage relationships and phase differences in an AC circuit context.

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  • The original poster attempts to find the current through the emf and questions the presence of an imaginary part in their current calculation. Other participants discuss the use of phasor notation and its implications for understanding currents and voltages in the circuit.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing insights into phasor notation and its relevance to the problem. There is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the original poster's answer, but some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of imaginary components in electrical calculations.

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Homework Statement


I'm trying to solve the problem 8.12 in Purcell's book on Electricity and Magnetism.

The circuit is like that :

|--------------|------------|
|......|.....R
|......C...|
emf...|...C
|......R...|
|--------------|-------------
(The points represent nothing, I had to write them because otherwise the circuit wouldn't appear as I'd like).
1)Find the current passing through the emf.
2)Demonstrate that if [tex]V_{AB}=V_B-V_A[/tex] then [tex]|V_{AB}|^2=V_0^2[/tex] for all [tex]\omega[/tex].
3)Find the phase difference between the current that passes through the emf and a capacitor.

Homework Equations


None given.

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm currently trying to do part 1).
I forgot to mention that [tex]\omega[/tex] is the angular frequency and [tex]V_0[/tex] is the amplitude of [tex]V(t)[/tex].
What I did so far : I notice that the current through both loops is the same and is worth [tex]I=\frac{V(t)}{Z}[/tex] where [tex]Z=R-\frac{i}{\omega C} \Rightarrow I(t)=\frac{2V_0 \cos (\omega t + \phi)\cdot \omega C}{\omega C R-i}[/tex].
How is that possible that the current is has an imaginary part? I guess I made an error, could you confirm?
 
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fluidistic said:
How is that possible that the current is has an imaginary part? I guess I made an error, could you confirm?

currents and voltages both can have an "imaginary part" (I hate the name "imaginary", so misleading).

It's usually written in phasor notation, so you'd convert the cartesian form:

[tex]x + iy[/tex]
to the polar form
[tex]r^{i\theta}[/tex]

and then write it in phasor notation:
[tex]r \angle \theta[/tex]
 
Pythagorean said:
currents and voltages both can have an "imaginary part" (I hate the name "imaginary", so misleading).

It's usually written in phasor notation, so you'd convert the cartesian form:

[tex]x + iy[/tex]
to the polar form
[tex]r^{i\theta}[/tex]

and then write it in phasor notation:
[tex]r \angle \theta[/tex]
Ok thank you, I understand.
Is my answer correct though?
 
fluidistic said:
Ok thank you, I understand.
Is my answer correct though?

that I can't say for sure, but I can tell you that it's what I would have done.
 
Pythagorean said:
that I can't say for sure, but I can tell you that it's what I would have done.
Thank you once again. :smile:
 

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