What is the Definition of the Delta Function?

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The discussion revolves around the definition and understanding of the Dirac delta function, particularly in relation to its applications in physics, such as in Gauss' law and its connection to the Heaviside step function. Participants express varying levels of familiarity with the concept and seek clarification on its meaning and implications.

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  • One participant notes confusion regarding the delta function and requests a simplified explanation, indicating a lack of clarity from existing resources.
  • Another participant introduces the Heaviside step function as a foundational concept, explaining that the delta function can be viewed as its derivative, particularly at the point x=0.
  • A participant presents an example involving applying force to a body over varying time intervals, illustrating how the delta function can represent an instantaneous impulse.
  • One participant humorously comments on the rarity of teaching the Dirac delta function at a young age, reflecting on educational trends.
  • A later reply acknowledges the connection between the Heaviside step function and the Dirac delta function, suggesting that the concept is not difficult to grasp.
  • Another participant describes the delta function as a linear continuous functional within the context of functional analysis, providing a mathematical definition and referencing academic resources for further reading.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding and familiarity with the delta function, with some seeking clarification while others provide technical explanations. There is no consensus on a singular definition or understanding of the delta function, indicating that multiple perspectives and approaches remain in the discussion.

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Some participants highlight the need for simpler explanations, while others delve into more technical definitions, suggesting a gap in understanding that may depend on prior knowledge of calculus and functional analysis. The discussion reflects differing levels of comfort with the mathematical rigor associated with the delta function.

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See the title please.
I came across it in the derivation of Gauss' law of electric flux from Coulomb's law. I did some research on it, but the wikipedia page about it was slightly confusing. All I know about it is that it models an instantaneous surge by a distribution. However I am still perplexed by this concept. Can someone please explain it to me like I am a 5-year-old with some calculus or direct me to some useful resources other than wiki?
 
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There are multiple approaches to delta function. Here I would start from
Heaviside Step Funiiton
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaviside_step_function
We can not differentiate Heaviside Step Function at 0 in usual healthy sense. But Dirac boldly invented a strange delta "function" as the result of its derivative including x=0.
H'(x)=\delta(x)

Say we give 1 Ns impulse to a 1kg body to make it move with 1m/s.
There are many ways to do it, e.g.
Applying Force 1 N during 1 second,
Force 10N during 1/10 second,
Force 100N during 1/100second,
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Force 1/x N during x second,
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We can make time duration x as small as we like with increasing Force 1/x .

There is no limit of x to zero in this sequence because 1/x diverges to infinity. But Dirac say there exists force limit ##\delta(x)##, that is to say, in a instant of time, the infinite force is applied to generate 1 Ns momentum on the body. Delta function is a momentum maker in a instant of time.
\int_{-\infty}^x \delta(\xi) d\xi = H(x)
Heaviside step function shows thus made momentum by Delta function at x=0.
 
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Leo Liu said:
Summary:: See the title please.

Can someone please explain it to me like I am a 5-year-old ...
The Dirac delta function is rarely taught at infant school. Especially these days.
 
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PeroK said:
The Dirac delta function is rarely taught at infant school. Especially these days.
What's the world coming to these days ?! :wink: A B C Dd !
 
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anuttarasammyak said:
There are multiple approaches to delta function. Here I would start from
Heaviside Step Funiiton
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaviside_step_function
Thank you. This concept isn't hard to grasp at all. I will look into its connection with Dirac delta.
 
##\delta##-function is a linear continuous functional on the space of ##C^\infty(\mathbb{R})##-functions with compact support. By definition ##\delta(\varphi)=\varphi(0)##.
The formulas like ##H'=\delta## are understood in the generalized sense
$$-\int_{\mathbb{R}}H(x)\varphi'(x)dx=\varphi(0)$$
For details see any textbook on functional analysis. For example https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9783540586548
 
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