What is the derivation of the torque formula for a piston engine?

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The discussion centers on deriving the torque formula for a piston engine, specifically focusing on the relationship between torque (T), piston force (F), crankshaft angle (θ), connecting rod length (L), and crank length (R). The user has encountered difficulties in proving the formula found in a referenced document, which suggests a complex relationship involving arc functions. The conversation highlights the non-symmetrical nature of the crank-rod-piston motion and the challenges in simplifying the derivation, particularly in relation to average cylinder pressure (BMEP).

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I am working on programming a simulation/model of a piston engine (steam, gas, etc). I have run into some trouble with the geometry. I need to calculate the torque T on the crankshaft as a function of the force F on the piston, the crankshaft angle theta, the connecting rod length L, and the crank length R (which is equal to half the stroke length). I should have no trouble getting the force from the pressure difference across the piston, butting getting the torque from that is more difficult. Heres an image that should clarify:

http://web.mit.edu/~j_martin/www/pistonphysics.bmp

The thing is, I actually already found the answer online on page 4 (1118) of this document:

http://www.iop.org/EJ/article/0143-0807/26/6/020/ejp5_6_020.pdf?request-id=9d55429d-8fc3-428a-959e-33173d288def

But I am really curious how this formula is derived. I can't seem to prove that formula myself. I can get a formula for it, but it is messy and involves lots of arcsin and arctan etc. Any help or insight would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
 
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Well your second link doesn'twork for me so I can't see the equation the book gets. The mathematical description of the motion of a crank-rod-piston device is indeed a messy beast full of arc-functions. And it isn't symmetrical between top & bottom (like a sine function) because the motion as the big-end bearing goes over the top is different than as it comes around the bottom. Maybe the (simpler??) formula I can't see is an average over the power stroke, or something like that? The "standard" torque equations typically have terms like "BMEP" which is a kind of average cylinder pressure.
 
Ok, I attached the formula that they come up with in that document. I am just curious how it is derived, because it is somewhat simpler than the formulas I can come up with. Lol, in the document they say, "From simple geometry." I wouldn't really call it simple though.
 

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