What is the Derivative of a Cross Product?

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The derivative of a cross product is addressed in the context of the expression \(\frac{d}{d\mathbf{r}}( \frac{m}{2} |\mathbf{\omega}\times\mathbf{r}|^2)\), leading to the result \(\mathbf{r}\omega^2-\mathbf{\omega}(\mathbf{\omega}.\mathbf{r})\). The discussion emphasizes the application of the product rule for both dot and cross products, confirming that the constant \(\frac{m}{2}\) should not be ignored. The final solution was reached after clarifying the necessary components and correcting an oversight regarding the constant factor.

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[SOLVED] derivative of a cross product

Homework Statement


In some lecture notes I'm reading they jump straight from \frac{d}{d\mathbf{r}}( \frac{m}{2} |\mathbf{\omega}\times\mathbf{r}|^2)
to
\mathbf{r}\omega^2-\mathbf{\omega}(\mathbf{\omega}.\mathbf{r})


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The Attempt at a Solution



It's easy to check this by writing out each component but this is messy so there's probably an easier way to do it. Any help appreciated.
Thanks
 
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plmokn2 said:

Homework Statement


In some lecture notes I'm reading they jump straight from \frac{d}{d\mathbf{r}}( \frac{m}{2} |\mathbf{\omega}\times\mathbf{r}|^2)
to
\mathbf{r}\omega^2-\mathbf{\omega}(\mathbf{\omega}.\mathbf{r})
Surely not! There must be an m/2 in there!
Ignoring the constant m/2, |\omega\times r|^2= (\omega\times r)\cdot(\omega\times\r). Take the derivative of that, apply the product rule- which is true, for vectors, for both dot product and cross product: (\vec{u}\cdot\vec{v})'= \vec{u} '\cdot\vec{v}+ \vec{u}\cdot\vec{v} ' and (\vec{u}\times\vec{v})'= \vec{u} '\times\vec{v}+ \vec{u}\times\vec{v} '.
 
opps I forgot an m in the answer: sorry.

Thanks, I've solved it now.
 

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