What is the difference between SO(3,1) and SO(1,3)?

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SO(3,1) and SO(1,3) refer to the same mathematical group, which is the algebra of the Lorentz group in four-dimensional spacetime. The notation SO(3,1) emphasizes the three spatial dimensions and one time dimension, while SO(1,3) highlights the time dimension first. Both notations describe the same transformations that include rotations and Lorentz boosts, with the algebra involving six generators: three for spatial rotations and three for boosts. Understanding these groups is crucial for advanced physics, particularly in the context of special relativity.

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Maybe this is kind of a dumb question but... in a lot of places I see lie groups with names like SO(4,1) or O(1,3) or GL(2,3) referred to. I know what it means when you talk about, say, SO(n)-- that would be the rotation group in n dimensions, or the special orthogonal nxn matrices. But what does it mean when you add the comma and the second number? That seems to be a common notation, but I can't find a clear explanation of it.

Even more confusing, it seems like some people will nonchalantly swap the order of the two numbers, such that one source will be talking about SO(3,1) and another will be talking about SO(1,3) but they appear to really be talking about the same group! What does the transposition of the numbers mean?

(This wikipedia page describes in part a notation where you could have, for example, GL(3, R), where the ",R" provides a group that the matrix members are to be pulled from. But this is clearly not what is meant when the second number is an integer...!)
 
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Such language is used widely in advanced physics. SO(3,1) is the algebra of the Lorentz group which is isomorphic to SU(2) x SU(2). You have 6 generators: three for SO(3) like rotation with communtation relation

\left[J_i , J_j\right] = i \epsilon_{ijk} J_k\quad;\quad i,j,k = 1,2,3

and three for Lorentz boost (one in each direction in space) with algebra

\left[J_i , K_j\right] = i \epsilon_{ijk} K_k


\left[K_i , K_j\right] = -i \epsilon_{ijk} J_k

The last relation tells you that two boosts give a rotation. These guys act on the four spacetime coordinates to produce a Lorentz transformation.

I've never seen ppl use SO(1,3) before, but I guess it means the same thing as SO(3,1), the extra 1 is to remind us that rotation is actually in the 4-dim spacetime coordinate and not just 3-dim space as in SO(3). Since SO(3,1) \cong SU(2) \otimes SU(2), you can study its represention using knowledge on SU(2). But then again, I could be wrong about SO(1,3).
 

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