What is the difference in the shown waveforms conceptually?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the conceptual differences between two types of waveforms: an impulse train represented by Dirac delta functions and a series of unit spikes. Participants explore the implications of these representations in both time and frequency domains, as well as their practical applications in signal analysis.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the difference between a plot of δ(t) and a plot with a value of 1 at t=0, suggesting that the first plot has an undefined value at t=0 while the second does not.
  • Another participant suggests that understanding the area under the waveforms and performing a Fourier transform may clarify the differences between the two representations.
  • A participant raises a practical concern about how these concepts apply when viewing a spectrum analyzer of a periodic signal, questioning whether the frequency domain representation consists of impulse functions or spikes.
  • One response indicates that a spectrum analyzer cannot represent infinite pulses of zero width, leading to the conclusion that each pulse is displayed as a limited amplitude pulse with an area determined by energy, and mentions that a train of Dirac delta pulses is referred to as a Dirac comb.
  • The spectrum of a Dirac comb is noted to be itself a Dirac comb, suggesting a self-similar property in the frequency domain.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of the waveforms in practical applications, particularly regarding their representation in frequency analysis. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the practical treatment of these impulses.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the potential misunderstanding of how impulse functions and spikes are treated in practical scenarios, as well as the implications of their representations in the frequency domain.

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Hi guys ,
My present doubt is regarding the waveforms shown in the image. The first plot is a impulse train. what is the difference having δ(t) in one plot and 1 at t=0, (0 else where) in a second case. whether time or frequency is the case...
 

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what is the difference having δ(t) in one plot and 1 at t=0, (0 else where) in a second case.
You mean the difference between a train of shifted delta functions and that of unit spikes?

In the second one, at t=0, f(t)=1. In the first one, f(t=0) is undefined.
It will probably help you understand if you consider the situations you'd have to find the area under the train in each case ... or do a Fourier transform.
 
Sir , thanks for the eye opener... But how does this concept do apply practically...for example when viewing spectrum analyzer of a periodic signal, the frequency domain we see is what mathematically?Is it impulse functions or spikes...? How do we treat this impulses practically?
 
A spectrum analyser cannot represent infinite pulses of zero width so we see each as a limited amplitude pulse with an area determined by energy. A train of Dirac delta pulses is a Dirac comb.
The spectrum of a Dirac comb is itself a Dirac comb.
Take a look at... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirac_comb
 

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