What Is the Direction of Two Colliding Cars Stuck Together?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves two vehicles, a car and an SUV, colliding and becoming stuck together. The scenario requires determining the direction of their combined motion after the collision, given their masses and initial velocities. The subject area pertains to momentum conservation and vector addition in physics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using momentum conservation equations and vector addition to analyze the collision. There are attempts to resolve the unknown initial velocity of the car and to break down the problem into components. Some participants express uncertainty about how to properly represent the vectors involved.

Discussion Status

Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to treat velocities as vectors and to separate the problem into x and y components. Multiple interpretations of the direction have been explored, with different calculations leading to varying angle estimates.

Contextual Notes

Participants note challenges in solving for variables due to the presence of multiple unknowns and the need for clear vector representation. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity involved in visualizing the problem without the ability to draw diagrams.

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Homework Statement


A 1300kg car moving east collided with a 2600 kg SUV moving north at 28 m/s. The vehicles became stuck together . If the speed of the vehicles immediately after the collision was 30 m/s, what was their direction?

A) 21 degrees E of N
B) 52 degrees E of N
C) 58 degrees E of N
D) 69 degrees E of N

Answer is suppose to be B

Homework Equations



P1 + P2 = P aka m1v1 + m2v2 = (m1 + m2) v

The Attempt at a Solution



I first drew vectors and then tried to add them together but i don't know how to draw them here so yea..

I used the formula given ... m1v1 + m2v2 = ( m1 + m2) v.

Not given v1 so i attempted to solve that with algebra... v1 = ((m1 +m2)v - (m2v2))/ m

v1 = ((1300+2600) x 30) - (2600 x 28)) / 1300
v1 = 34 m/s

I drew a vector triangle eventually got tan ((2600 x 28)/(1300 x 24) = 58.74 degrees east of north

Please help and Thank You... Sorry if this was to messy to understand first time doing this :p
 
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friedpork said:

Homework Equations



P1 + P2 = P aka m1v1 + m2v2 = (m1 + m2) v

The above equation is fine, as long as you treat the velocities as vectors.

The Attempt at a Solution



I first drew vectors and then tried to add them together but i don't know how to draw them here so yea..

I used the formula given ... m1v1 + m2v2 = ( m1 + m2) v.

Not given v1 so i attempted to solve that with algebra... v1 = ((m1 +m2)v - (m2v2))/ m

v1 = ((1300+2600) x 30) - (2600 x 28)) / 1300
v1 = 34 m/s

Sorry, but that's not going to work for you. You need to treat the velocities as vectors, and add them appropriately as vectors.

In this problem it's probably easiest to break up this problem into separate directions. If you consider the East-West direction as being the 'x' direction, and the South-North direction as being the 'y' direction, then

[tex]m_{1}v_{1x} + m_{2}v_{2x} = (m_1+m_2)v_x[/tex]

[tex]m_{1}v_{1y} + m_{2}v_{2y} = (m_1+m_2)v_y[/tex]

[tex]|v| = \sqrt{v_x^2 + v_y^2}[/tex]

See if that helps. :wink:
 
I think i got it..

So for the [tex]m_{1}v_{1x} + M_{2}v_{2x} = (m_1+m_2) v_x[/tex] I wasnt able to solve it since i have two variables.

But in the vertical direction i was able to solve it and i ended up getting a velocity of 18.66667 m/s

Drew a vector additional triangle. 30 m/s was my hypotenuse and 18.66667 became my opposite side.

Sin ( 18.6666666667/ 30 ) = 38.4786 degress... I'm going to assume that this value is North of East. which is also the same as 51.5212 degrees East of North.
 
That's the way to do it. :approve:
 

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