What is the Electric Field Outside a Pipe with a Uniform Charge Density?

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The problem involves calculating the electric field outside a non-conductive pipe with a uniform charge density of 40 C/m³, given specific inner and outer radii. The context is rooted in electrostatics and the application of Gauss's Law.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the treatment of the pipe as a cylinder and the implications of the inner and outer radii on calculations. Questions arise about the correct application of volume and area formulas, as well as the conversion of volume charge density to linear charge density.

Discussion Status

Some participants suggest that the inner radius may not be necessary for calculating the electric field outside the pipe, while others explore the implications of symmetry in applying Gauss's Law. There is ongoing exploration of the relationship between charge density and the electric field.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of applying Gauss's Law in a scenario with a non-conductive material and are considering how to appropriately account for the geometry of the charge distribution.

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Homework Statement



A pipe that is not a conductor has a uni form charge density 40 C/m^3. The inner radius is 0.15 m and the outer radius is 0.25 m. What is the electric field magnitude at r=0.3 m?

Homework Equations



Gauss's Law: net flux = int[E*dA] = Q_encl / epsilon naught

The Attempt at a Solution



First, I figure to treat this as a cylinder, V = pi*r^2 * L

But how would the inner/outer radii come into play? Would it be instead V = pi*r_1^2 * L - pi* r_2^2 * L where r_1 = .25 m (outer radius), r_2 = .15 m (inner radius)? Is that correct so far?

What would the area be? For a cylinder, it's 2*pi*r^2 + 2*pi*r*L, but then L wouldn't totally cancel out, right?
 
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You don't really need to worry about the inner and outer radius too much considering they ask you for the electric field outside the pipe. Convert the volume charge density to linear charge density. You can then just treat it as a rod of charge.
 
Ok, so is it E = lambda*L (with L canceling) / (epsilon * 2 * pi * r^2) with r = 0.3?
(I must be making a mistake somewhere because i keep getting the wrong answer but this is the only equation that makes a lot of sense)
 
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What's relevant, here, is that the charge is distrubuted symmetrically around the axis.

To apply Gauss' Law, you just need to know the enclosed charge per unit length, and the symmetry you can use.

The total charge per unit length is the volume per unit length times the charge density.
 
Thanks,

Would the volume per unit length here be
V = pi*r^2 * L where r is the outer radius?

In other words, do you not even have to account for the inner radius here since the electric field is to be calculated outside the cylinder?
 
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