What is the final angular velocity when two rotating disks are pushed together?

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The problem involves two disks rotating about a common axis, with different moments of inertia and angular velocities. The original poster seeks to determine the final angular velocity when the disks are pushed together.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the conservation of angular momentum and question the validity of using energy equations in this context. There is an exploration of the relationship between the moments of inertia and angular velocities of the disks.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the conservation of angular momentum, while others have acknowledged misunderstandings regarding the application of energy equations. The discussion reflects a mix of interpretations and attempts to clarify the correct approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that heat is dissipated when the disks conjoin, which may affect the conservation principles being applied. There is also a recognition of the specific conditions under which the problem is framed.

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Homework Statement


Two disks are rotating about an axis common to both. The first disk has moment of inertia I and angular velocity ω. The second disk has moment of inertia 2I and angular velocity \frac{ω}{2}
Both rotate in same direction
If both disks are pushed into each other what is the angular velocity of the larger disk when both are rotating together?

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The Attempt at a Solution


I don't know how to solve this.
I was thinking in I+2I = \frac{ω}{2} + ω but that doesn't make sense.
Any idea in how to start solving this?
 
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duplaimp said:

Homework Statement


Two disks are rotating about an axis common to both. The first disk has moment of inertia I and angular velocity ω. The second disk has moment of inertia 2I and angular velocity \frac{ω}{2}
Both rotate in same direction
If both disks are pushed into each other what is the angular velocity of the larger disk when both are rotating together?

xa9TyS2.png


The Attempt at a Solution


I don't know how to solve this.
I was thinking in I+2I = \frac{ω}{2} + ω but that doesn't make sense.
Any idea in how to start solving this?

Conservation of angular momentum.
 
[1/2 Iω^2]1 + [1/2 Iω^2]2 = 1/2 (I1 + I2)ωc^2
Where ωc is the common angular velocity
 
siddharth23 said:
[1/2 Iω^2]1 + [1/2 Iω^2]2 = 1/2 (I1 + I2)ωc^2
Where ωc is the common angular velocity

EDIT:
this is not conservation of angular momentum. It's an energy equation which is invalid since heat is dissipated when the two disks conjoin.
 
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rude man said:
EDIT:
this is not conservation of angular momentum. It's an energy equation which is invalid since heat is dissipated when the two disks conjoin.

Oh my bad. That's a very specific case. Sorry.

I1ω1 + I2ω2 = (I1 + I2)ωc
 
siddharth23 said:
Oh my bad. That's a very specific case. Sorry.

I1ω1 + I2ω2 = (I1 + I2)ωc

That is correct.
 

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