What is the formula for complex exponentiation with an irrational exponent?

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The discussion revolves around the formula for complex exponentiation, particularly when the exponent is irrational. Participants explore the implications of multivalued results in complex exponentiation and the definitions involved, including the use of logarithms and the atan2 function. The scope includes theoretical aspects and mathematical reasoning.

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  • One participant presents a detailed formula for complex exponentiation and questions how to derive multiple solutions when the exponent is irrational.
  • Another participant suggests that complex exponentiation can be defined as exp{y log x}, noting that the logarithm is multivalued, which contributes to the multivalued nature of the exponentiation.
  • There is a discussion about the atan2 function, with some participants suggesting it may also be multivalued, while others argue that it is single-valued in certain contexts.
  • Concerns are raised about why some calculators provide only one answer for complex exponentiation, with suggestions that this is due to the choice of principal branches in functions like atan2.
  • One participant expresses confusion about why irrational exponents specifically lead to multivalued results, questioning the role of non-integer values.
  • Another participant clarifies that taking rational powers results in a finite number of solutions, contrasting this with the infinite possibilities associated with irrational exponents.

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Participants express differing views on the multivalued nature of complex exponentiation and the role of various mathematical functions. There is no consensus on the implications of irrational versus non-integer exponents, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of these definitions.

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Participants highlight the complexity of defining complex exponentiation and the potential for multiple interpretations based on the choice of functions and branches. The discussion reflects the nuanced nature of mathematical definitions and their implications.

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Mathworld seems to be the only place which explicitly defines complex exponentiation. I'll be even more explicit than Wolfram and write out the full formula (I'm guessing there's no shorter way for the general case):

(a+bi)^(c+di) =

(a2+b2)^(c/2) * e^(-d*atan2(b,a)) * cos(c*atan2(b,a)+0.5*d*ln(a2+b2) )
+
(a2+b2)^(c/2) * e^(-d*atan2(b,a)) * sin (c*atan2(b,a)+0.5*d*ln(a2+b2) ) i


My question is this:
Wikipedia says that the result for complex exponentiation is multivalued when the exponent is irrational - in other words, there's more than one possible solution. How would I change the above formula to produce the other solution/s?

If anyone could give the other answers to say (2.2+3.3i)^(4.4+5.5i) to clarify the answer to the above, then that would be a great example too. Or are there an infinite number of possible answers?

Finally, if complex exponentiation is supposed to give multiple answers when the exponent is irrational, then why do certain calculator applets on the internet that deal with complex arithmetic only give one answer?
 
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Um, normally one defines x^y as exp{y log x} which is multivalued as log is multivalued. This is a lot more compact than your answer, though I don't dispute it.

What does atan2(b,a) mean? That might well be multivalued as everything else there is single valued.

I don't know why you want such a complicated example, and I will do i^i instead.

i^i=exp{i log i}

so we need to know what log(i) is.

i=exp{i pi/2 +2npi} for any integer n, so log{i} = {i pi/2 +2npi}

hence i^i = exp{-pi/2 -2npi}

where n is an integer. Normally, one takes a canonical choice of argument, i.e. Arg(i)=pi/2, so we usually define

i^i=exp{-pi/2}.
 
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Um, normally one defines x^y as exp{y log x} which is multivalued as log is multivalued. This is a lot more compact than your answer, though I don't dispute it.
At its lowest level (separating the complex and real parts), I'm guessing that would be no less convoluted than mine, as one would then need to calculate the logarithm of the complex numbers etc.

Atan2 is a very useful function often used in computer science to automatically sort out the quadrant business as well as 'degenerate' cases such as atan(1/0) which would throw up an error. It's really handy - be nice for it to be a standard everywhere really.

That might well be multivalued as everything else there is single valued.
I doubt atan or atan2 is. I think it would be the ln() part that's multivalued if anything...

I don't know why you want such a complicated example, and I will do i^i instead.
The example I gave had the exponent as non-integer. According to Wikipedia, this means that there should be multiple (possibly infinite) solutions, (or maybe that only applies only to irrational numbers, rather than merely non-integer ones?). Because of that, I'm still confused why certain calculator applets on the internet that deal with complex arithmetic only give one answer...
 
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Right, so I'm going to guess that Atan means inverse tan. Tan is periodic, hence its inverse is a multivalued 'function', but you can pick a principal branch. Which is exactly what you have done.

Your ln in the context above is not the mutlivalued bit - its argument is a positive real number - so it is just the ordinary logarithm.The reason why (online) calculators give a single answer for complex exponentiation is exactly because your Atan function chooses a single value, and the genuine multivaluedness comes from the fact that actually there are infinitely many choices for it.
 
Aha, thank you - it's all starting to piece together now! Am I right in saying then that the DFT definition for example (which uses a complex exponent) would use this "principal branch" thing? (I'm sure the exponent term in that DFT formula can be reduced regardless).

Just one more question now (as long as there's a relatively simple answer - don't worry otherwise):
Why does the exponent have to be irrational to produce the multivalue thing? It makes sense to me that if it was merely non-integer (e.g. 2.35), or even just integer, that the multivalue thing would come into play.
 
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No - that is no a principal branch or anything - exp is a power series and is unique.

Taking rational powers i.e. 1/n results in n possible answers, not infinitely many - that is the difference.
 
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