What is the formula for θ as a function of time in a projectile's path?

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The problem involves deriving a formula for the angle θ as a function of time for a ball thrown horizontally from a cliff, following a projectile's path. The discussion centers around the components of velocity and the relationship between time and the angle of motion.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss breaking down the velocity into horizontal and vertical components and how to relate these to the angle θ. There are attempts to derive time as a function of θ and to use trigonometric properties to express θ in terms of time.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various participants offering insights and suggestions. Some have proposed sketching graphs to visualize the relationship between time and the vertical position, while others are exploring the implications of 2-dimensional motion on the problem. There is no explicit consensus yet on the correct procedure.

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Participants note the complexity of the problem due to the parabolic path of the projectile and the need to consider both horizontal and vertical components of motion. There is also mention of the importance of initial conditions such as height and velocity.

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Homework Statement


A ball is thrown horizontally from the top of a cliff with an initial Vo(at t=os). At any moment , its direction of motion makes an angle θ to the horizontal.

1)Derive a formula for θ as a function of time, t, as the ball follows a projectile's path.

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components: Vx=Voxcosθ Vy=Voysinθ

then i plugged the x component to find t:Vx=x/t... t=x/(Voxcosθ)

next i plugged t into a y position function Y=Yo+Voyt+1/2at^2

0=h+(Voysinθ )(x/Voxcosθ)+(1/2*-9.8*(x/Voxcosθ)^2)

this be correct because if u were given all of the initial heights and velocities the only variable left to solve for would be θ, giving you your answer right?
 
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That's a pretty long equation. The horizontal velocity is always constant: v_x = v_ox.
The vertical velocity is just v_y = gt.
You can solve for theta as a function of t using basic trig properties of a right triangle.
 
hey thanks, but u can only solve for theta using trig for a 1-d motion problem, but in 2-d the object follows a parabolic path so its velocity must be broken into components.

the t=x/v_o cos(theta) gives you time which you plug into the y position function, which accounts for the parabolic path.

if anybody else knows what to do, any help would be aprreciated
 
Does anybody else know how to solve this, I am really curious what the correct procedure is...
 
If it helps you, I would start by sketching out a graph showing the function of time (Y) and its relationship to t. You can completely ignore X since it will have nothing to do with how quickly Y changes. Y is only a function of time.

From there on out, follow PhanthomJay's suggestions.
 
After re-reading your OP, I'm sorry for replying with an incorrect response. I misunderstood your question (whoops!) :redface:
...its direction of motion makes an angle θ to the horizontal.

Use the equations for your X and Y components of your velocity and work out θ using trig.
 
no worries Condensate =P.. and ok i will try that when it comes around to AP review time, thanks for your help.
 

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