What is the Fourier Transform of a Rectangular Function?

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The discussion revolves around calculating integrals related to Fourier transforms, specifically focusing on the integrals of functions involving sine and cosine. The context is set within a Fourier analysis course, where participants are exploring methods to approach these integrals.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of contour integration and the residue theorem as potential methods for solving the integrals. There is uncertainty about the necessity of these techniques and whether they are the only way to approach the problem. Some participants express confusion about the integration methods and the relevance of Plancherel's theorem.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing different perspectives on how to tackle the integrals. Some have suggested looking into Plancherel's theorem as a hint, while others are questioning the methods proposed. There is no clear consensus on the best approach yet, and participants are still exploring various ideas.

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Participants note the challenge of learning new integration techniques independently and express concern about the expectations set by their instructor. There is also mention of specific properties of the functions involved, such as the L² norm and the Fourier transform relationships.

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Homework Statement


1) Calculate the integral:
[tex]$\int_{-\infty }^{\infty }{{{\left( \frac{\sin \left( x \right)}{x} \right)}^{2}}dx}$[/tex]

2) Calculate the integral:
[tex]$\int_{-\infty }^{\infty }{{{\left( \frac{1-\cos \left( \lambda \pi \right)}{{{\lambda }^{2}}} \right)}^{2}}d\lambda }$[/tex]

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I think it has to be solved with finding the Fourier transform or something. I'm not quite sure...


The Attempt at a Solution


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Well, I really don't know where to start.

Help ?
 
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You need to use contour integration in the complex plane:

Choose a closed contour part of which runs from negitive infinity to possitive infinity on the real axis. Then use either the 'Cauchy Integral Formula' or the 'Residue theorem' to integrate the function over your chosen contour. Details of these methods given here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methods_of_contour_integration.
 
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Hmmm, these questions are from a Fourier analysis course. I have never heard of what you have described above :)
 
Denver Dang said:
Hmmm, these questions are from a Fourier analysis course. I have never heard of what you have described above :)

You'll need to learn it. You need the residue theorem to calculate a lot of Fourier integrals. For the first one you want to replace the z^2 in the denominator with (z-ie)^2 where e>0 to move the pole off the real axis. Then take the limit e->0 at the end. Similar trick for the second one.
 
Hmmm... It just seems weird that my teacher wants me to figure out a new integrating trick on my own ?

Is that really the other way to solve it ?
I've been told, as a hint, to look at Plancherels Formula. And then I could neglect the squared paranthes around the whole function, because the inner product would give the same.

'Cause I don't know about you're way you do it - even though it might be smart :)
 
Denver Dang said:
Hmmm... It just seems weird that my teacher wants me to figure out a new integrating trick on my own ?

Is that really the other way to solve it ?
I've been told, as a hint, to look at Plancherels Formula. And then I could neglect the squared paranthes around the whole function, because the inner product would give the same.

'Cause I don't know about you're way you do it - even though it might be smart :)

That is a good hint to avoid the residue stuff. Did you look at look at Plancherel's theorem? Any thoughts on how to use it?
 
Not much really...

It states:

Suppose f and g are square integrable. Then

[tex]$<F\left[ f \right],F\left[ g \right]{{>}_{{{L}^{2}}}}=\,<f,g{{>}_{{{L}^{2}}}}$[/tex]

[tex]${{\left\langle {{F}^{-1}}\left[ f \right],{{F}^{-1}}\left[ g \right] \right\rangle }_{{{L}^{2}}}}={{\left\langle f,g \right\rangle }_{{{L}^{2}}}}$[/tex]

(The symbol in the start is suppose to be <. Don't know why it wouldn't write it out.)

In particular,

[tex]\[{{\left\| F\left[ f \right] \right\|}_{{{L}^{2}}}}={{\left\| f \right\|}_{{{L}^{2}}}}\][/tex]

So as I said, since we take the inner product, we can neglect the squared paranthes, and then do <f,f> and <g,g> and get the same as if they were squared.

But besides that, I'm pretty much clueless tbh...
 
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Denver Dang said:
Hmmm, why won't it write my LaTex :'(

I'm not sure. But your first integral is the L^2 norm of the function f(x)=sin(x)/x. If you could figure out what the Fourier transform of f(x) is, it might be easier to find the L^2 norm of that instead of the original function.
 
Hmmm, the integral of f(x) is sqrt(pi/2) ?
 
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Denver Dang said:
Hmmm, the integral of f(x) is sqrt(pi/2) ?

Why would you say that? Are you guessing?
 
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Well, I kinda looked it up :) But I'm not even sure that's right...

I'm not really quite sure how to do it. As far as I can see the indefinite integral of just sin(x)/x = x - x^3/(3*3!) + x^5/(5*5!)...
And then when I have to involve e*(-i*n*x) as well, I really get confused :S
Is integration by parts still an option when there is 3 "parts" ?
 
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Denver Dang said:
Well, I kinda looked it up :) But I'm not even sure that's right...

I'm not really quite sure how to do it. As far as I can see the indefinite integral of just sin(x)/x = x - x^3/(3*3!) + x^5/(5*5!)...
And then when I have to involve e*(-i*n*x) as well, I really get confused :S
Is integration by parts still an option when there is 3 "parts" ?

You are missing the Plancherel's clue. What's the Fourier transform of sin(x)/x?? This is a Fourier course, right? Hunt around a little in the course material.
 
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Hmmm, the clue being that the Fourier transform F[f] is equal the function f ?
If not, how am I suppose to find the Fourier transform, when it's actually what I'm asking help to find ? :)
 
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Denver Dang said:
Hmmm, the clue being that the Fourier transform F[f] is equal the function f ?
If not, how am I suppose to find the Fourier transform, when it's actually what I'm asking help to find ? :)

No, no, no. F(f) is not equal to f. The L^2 norm of the two is equal. Define f(x)=1 if -1<=x<=1 and f(x)=0 otherwise. Can you find the Fourier transform of f(x)?
 

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